Cricket

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by wfc4ever, Jul 25, 2011.

  1. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2018
    Messages:
    13,790
    Likes Received:
    8,016
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    In fairness, even a Test against Ireland matters more to me than the death of a monarch! C4 picked up the last series in India, wonder if they'll be interested in any of the last 4 Tests? We did actually win the first one last time out, but it felt like a fluke, this one feels different because it didn't just finish in 2 days with a comically bad pitch
     
  2. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    4,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Northampton
    As Hartley’s county signs Nathan Lyon as their overseas player….
     
  3. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,485
    Likes Received:
    10,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bristol
    Entirely sensible from their perspective if he’s going to be playing for England, of course.
     
    Last edited: Jan 28, 2024
    Hogg-DEENEY!!! likes this.
  4. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    4,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Northampton
    Except what is the current likelihood of Hartley being regularly picked for an England home series? My point was he was very unlikely to be away from his county this summer when they decided to sign Lyon, thus limiting his potential progression at a time when people are bemoaning the lack of opportunity offered to English spinners in the domestic game.
     
  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,855
    Likes Received:
    20,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    Yes we won't play >1 spinner, presumably Leach with root as back-up ?
     
    With A Smile likes this.
  6. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,485
    Likes Received:
    10,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bristol
    I think it's quite likely he will play, actually. Leach doesn't look fit. Obviously depends on whether yesterday was a flash in the pan.

    In any case, they might award him a central contract and not play him. Now that's dumb, but it would still leave Lancs needing a spinner.
     
  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,960
    Likes Received:
    6,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
  8. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    4,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Northampton
    Unlikely as yet; and Lancs signed Lyon before Hartley’s 1st Test heroics, so I think it was always in their minds to treat him as 2nd choice at best.
     
  9. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,485
    Likes Received:
    10,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bristol
    But certainly not out of the question.

    Take the point about the timing though.
     
  10. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    4,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Northampton
    Yes, the general attitude of English counties towards homegrown spinners is what I was alluding to.
     
  11. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,485
    Likes Received:
    10,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bristol
    Not every county ;).
     
  12. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    17,715
    Likes Received:
    885
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Leighton Buzzard
    We will only ever need 1 spinner at home. When we go to India, Sri Lanka and Pakistan its slightly different and we will always take 3 or 4 options, even if they are bang average.

    Any win in India is a good win even with a depleted side. Well played Ollie Pope !

    What ever happened to Matt Parkinson, surely this would have been about his time.
     
    Otter likes this.
  13. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,485
    Likes Received:
    10,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bristol
    We've played two before now, esp at the Oval and OT.

    But Root is good enough that even then we would only need to pick one specialist.

    Read an interesting article about Parkinson, apparently he got the yips, to use a golfing term. This isn't the same one but it gives some idea:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2023/05/19/matt-parkinson-england-lancashire-vitality-blast/
     
  14. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,855
    Likes Received:
    20,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    Yes of course - we were debating what will happen in the summer.
     
  15. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,855
    Likes Received:
    20,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
  16. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,485
    Likes Received:
    10,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bristol
    Yes, smart arse, have just corrected.
     
  17. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    4,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Northampton
    Live by the quill, die by it!
     
  18. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2016
    Messages:
    15,485
    Likes Received:
    10,833
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Bristol
    He gave me 30 seconds!!
     
  19. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    4,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Northampton
    Barely time to resharpen it!
     
    Keighley likes this.
  20. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,960
    Likes Received:
    6,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    Leach out of the next test - will young Bashir get called up ?

    Or play another quick /batter and rely on Root as a 3rd spinner ?
     
  21. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2020
    Messages:
    3,487
    Likes Received:
    6,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes he does @wfc4ever

    Us Somerset supporters are all very nervous (although pleased for him)

    He’s hardly played any first-class cricket and struggled at times last season. Very very raw, though of good character and with undoubted promise.

    We had a wonderful batsman a few years ago who was called up by England for two test matches, hated the experience and was never the same player after and retired early. You could even say that Dom Bess regressed badly after getting a taste of international cricket. So we are all praying it won’t do the same to Bashir.
     
    Keighley and wfc4ever like this.
  22. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,855
    Likes Received:
    20,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    Lathwell ?
     
    Keighley likes this.
  23. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2020
    Messages:
    3,487
    Likes Received:
    6,876
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    yes!
     
    The undeniable truth likes this.
  24. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,960
    Likes Received:
    6,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    Well done Bashir.

    First wicket and a big one too.

    And Jimmy adds another to his number .
     
    Malteser2 likes this.
  25. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    7,309
    Likes Received:
    4,291
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Northampton
    Depends on why he hated the experience…if it was the seeming non-stop intensity of it, then it clearly was not him, but if it was more the apparent joylessness that used to surround the squad, then he may have found the current environment less hateful.
     
  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,960
    Likes Received:
    6,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    Just lulling India into a false sense of security again ..

    ;)
     
  27. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2014
    Messages:
    16,468
    Likes Received:
    5,233
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Watford
    Bowled them out for 255, so a target of 399 to win. You feel with this team they will either get it with a day to spare or be all out for half of that.
     
    wfc4ever likes this.
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,960
    Likes Received:
    6,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    Unfortunatly Jasprit Bumrah seems to be in the mood to seam the ball well.

    Gill was almost out twice on DRS early in his innings - fine margins i guess.
     
  29. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    May 15, 2008
    Messages:
    22,945
    Likes Received:
    8,548
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    ISS
    Nice to see SA send a third XI to NZ. Domestic T20 seems to be more important and financially more lucrative.

    Test cricket diminished again.
     
    Knight GT likes this.
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,960
    Likes Received:
    6,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    Looks like we let a good position slip with a dropped catch and lack of reviews .
     
  31. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    18,629
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Berkshire.
    445 all out for India which seems a lot but we are currently going at six an over in reply. Duckett batting superbly and close to a heck of a century. 137-1
     
  32. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2014
    Messages:
    34,855
    Likes Received:
    20,553
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    over here
    164-1. Duckett 100 off 88 balls.
    First wicket fell at 89 when Crawley was out for just 15 !
     
  33. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator

    Staff Member
    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2006
    Messages:
    57,960
    Likes Received:
    6,915
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Harpenden
    Great innings by Duckett .

    Hopefully Root can get a decent knock .
     
  34. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2012
    Messages:
    18,629
    Likes Received:
    8,086
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Berkshire.
    Keep attacking, even Bumrah and Ashwin are not sure where to bowl. When I say they has scored 445 I thought we don't have a chance but I under estimate Bazball. Going to need 600 though I reckon as batting fourth is likely to be tough
     
  35. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Joined:
    May 27, 2007
    Messages:
    17,715
    Likes Received:
    885
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Leighton Buzzard
    450 is pretty standard in the first innings in India. If we can get to 500 or even better 550 then its in our hands.

    That was a great innings by Duckett. Crawley couldn't get his timing, but did well to hang about.

    Root is due a big score and Bairstow has a point to prove, its a great foundation to build from.
     

Share This Page