Leeds United 3-0 Watford Fc - 23/09/2023

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by BeersThen, Sep 20, 2023.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    This is why the Pozzo’s need to get out of football ASAP, before it bankrupts them. They had a method once, but that’s long gone. They are just hanging on in there hoping fortunes change, just like a losing gambler. It never will. Their time has come and gone.

    Look at Udinese. Their squad is vastly bloated but how much quality do they actually have? They’ve not won a game yet. They need to cash in and get out. I’m hoping this is what their plan is.
     
  2. reids

    reids First Team

    The goalkeeper was between him and the net though.
     
  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Udinese lost again. Odds on a double relegation for Bozzo Pozzo?
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2023
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  5. Fernandiiito

    Fernandiiito First Year Pro

    Result was pretty much as expected, they were better than us all over the pitch.

    Annoyingly once we started to get a foothold in the game in the second half we fall apart after the 1st goes in

    Rajovic doesn't work as a lone striker (possibly full stop) in games such as yesterday where we don't expect to have a lot of the ball and attack. His inability to be an outlet piled even more pressure on a powder puff, non-existent midfield.

    Was disappointing to hear a group of fans resort to singling out a Leeds fan for personal abuse over his weight. Really poor form. We got schooled, get over it.
     
    Malteser2 and PowerJugs like this.
  6. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    I disagree I spent sometime many years ago working out our average league position, I can assure you now it would be from 8th - 14th in the Championship.
     
  7. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Bet the L***n, Burnley and Sheff Utd fans are loving life up there right now
     
  8. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Very true. I wonder if we’ve broken some sort of record for the least points won by the promoted teams at this stage of the season? I’d be surprised if not.

    Helped of course by the matchweek 2 postponement involving two of them (and they now meet a week Tuesday) but still....
     
    EB Hornet likes this.
  9. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    That can’t possibly we true from the data starting 1881. Maybe from 1980 onwards it could be correct but definitely not over our entire history.
     
    Since63 likes this.
  10. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    That’s the only crap record we don’t hold. I’m gutted by that.
     
  11. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    You normally give the stats Malts not ask them.
     
    Malteser2 likes this.
  12. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    This is reminding me of every time we played Man City
     
  13. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    At least we put in more of a shift away than Sheffield have at their own ground.
     
    Malteser2 likes this.
  14. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    @EB Hornet I’m having a day off!

    But yes, not surprisingly it is the lowest! 3 points from a combined 16 matches.
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2023
    EB Hornet likes this.
  15. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Are fat jokes banned too?
     
    UEA_Hornet likes this.
  16. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    That was my first time at Elland Road and thought the atmosphere was very underwhelming. I thought it was going to be very intimidating but it really wasn't. A few outbreaks of singing when they went 3 nil up but apart from that very flat.
     
  17. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Max Come; can't you read?!

    I presume he currently plays for Deportivo W@nka.
     
  18. Fernandiiito

    Fernandiiito First Year Pro

    Not sure a group of people directing abuse and obscenities at an individual is a joke is it
     
    Jumbolina likes this.
  19. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi First Year Pro

    Time to go 352.

    Bachmann

    Porteous
    Sierralta
    Hoedt

    Andrews
    Asprilla
    Louza
    Chakvetadze
    Lewis

    Bayo/Rajovic
    Healey
     
    Jumbolina and PowerJugs like this.
  20. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I'd agree with this. We don't have a suitable lone striker in our team who can balance both hold up and runs in behind the defence. Getting the ball up the pitch and making chances, Leeds aside, has been a consistent strength of our side and one of our goals v Coventry came from having two strikers to press the defence and force an error and Vi is slowly using that option in his substitutions now.

    Only problem is we sacrifice Martins' strongest role which is a blow as he's been in good form and Ince has impressed me with his work rate and decent end product. Could try Martins as ST partner but I don't think that ends well.

    ---------------Bachmann---------------
    -----Porteous-Sierralta-Hoedt-----
    -Andrews-----------------------Lewis-
    --------------------Louza------------------
    -----Dele-Bashiru--------Asprilla-----
    -------Bayo--------Rajovic/Healey-----

    Or 442:

    ------------------------Bachmann----------------------
    -----Andrews---Porteous---Hoedt---Lewis-----
    ----Martins---Louza---Dele-Bashiru---Ince----
    ---------------Bayo--------Rajovic/Healey---------
     
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2023
    ProfessorAbdi likes this.
  21. dynamo380

    dynamo380 Reservist

    Only if their about peoples mums. Wokeness gone mad.
     
    wfcSinatra likes this.
  22. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi First Year Pro

    Forgot about Martins didn't I. Play him just off the striker instead of Healey.
     
  23. Malco_Falco

    Malco_Falco Academy Graduate

    Been like that since we let Will Hughes go
     
    hornetmaster and PowerJugs like this.
  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    But that risks even fewer crosses for Raj to attack, which is basically the only thing he can do. He would be useless as a partner in a two as he wins so few heading duels and can’t trap, control, and retain a football. He’s no Deeney. He’s not going to be winning the ball and laying it on a plate for a striking partner.
     
    WillisWasTheWorst likes this.
  25. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    The formation isn't the problem, we've been in every game up until Saturday, and we were battered with a 4-3-3 and a 3-5-2 against Leeds
     
    BigRossLittleRoss likes this.
  26. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Mid table Championship club in a period of significant change goes to a team fresh out of the Premier League and loses 3-0. It was always likely and no big deal, though some will see it as an opportunity to be as negative as possible.

    In a week we have won one, lost one, drawn one. This season we have won two, drawn three, lost three. That will be the story of our season - our W, D, L columns will all be about similar to each other come the end of the season as we finish mid table.
     
  27. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist

    Think the worry is that's with a 'fully fit' squad vs mid-table teams. Add injuries, suspensions and our away form and mid table might be optimistic.
     
  28. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    My wife is a Sheff Utd fan as are her family - they are hating the Premier League as much as usual.
     
    3000 likes this.
  29. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    Other teams will have injuries as well. This is every inch a mid table squad as was last seasons.
     
    domthehornet likes this.
  30. Del Payne's Left Sock

    Del Payne's Left Sock Academy Graduate

    Not an apologist for either but Sierralta only played DM for the first half we switched to a proper back 3 in the 2nd and he was right of the 3. When Porteus was galloping into the midfield only to get rolled and leave massive holes behind. Our other world class DM, Kayembe was the missing man not Sierralta.
     
  31. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Exactly this. If we'd have fluked a win vs Leeds we'd currently be 1 point off top 6. Instead, we lose a game we'd sadly expect to lose, and it's relegation discussions and everything is a tragedy and a disgrace.

    The sooner people adjust to what we are now, the less upset and angry they'll be.
     
  32. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    This is correct. There will always be those who will deny what is blatantly obvious and make out because you have concerns, you are negative.

    Base case scenario, we have no injuries all season. If that happens then I can see us finishing around 16th place. But once injuries kick in, which they always do, we’ll be significantly below this.

    Just look at our form so far. With a fully fit squad, we’ve only won once since the opening fixture. We are sleepwalking into a relegation fight but only a few can see it.
     
    Jumbolina likes this.
  33. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I think you are right, but there should be serious questions to answer. After all we are 2 seasons fresh out of the premier league, and yet due to the financial mismanagement we are left with such a threadbare, low budget poor squad. Pozzo, Giaretta and Duxbury have wasted tens of millions and seemingly can just declare “reset” and all questions go away for some fans. (not aimed at you that comment).
     
  34. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    For all its faults last season squad had vastly superior depth. 3 long term injures would be catastrophic for this team in terms of who would start getting lots of minutes.
     
    Chumlax likes this.
  35. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    I don't disagree, but the previous was a high budget poor squad. Same meat, different gravy.

    The only similarity between last seasons squad and this seasons squad is they are both absolutely nailed on cast iron mid table. In terms of approach and how they get there they couldn't be more different. This season is about lesser quality mixed with hard work and unity, last season was about having more talent but no effort, desire or passion.
     

Share This Page