Troy Deeney

If you have the surgery, send your bloody, squitted out stool of agony to him too.

 

That was my point. Worst two weeks of my life.

 

The guys a ******* idiot, how an earth the club allow him to go on the radio and talk club business is a joke. He also said to Talk Sport "'why would he take a job where he will be sacked in 5 months time" Don't get me wrong it's true but are you really going to come out and mug your employers off like that?! It's not as if they haven't been good to him.

 

Those employers certainly have had the heat taken off them after this morning. Everyone is pointing the finger at Deeney as opposed to where it should be pointed. No one is talking about Johnny Eleven-Games as the new coach.

Perhaps that was the plan all along.

 

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**** him, taking the piss now isnt he? Basically he knows the Ponzos wont sack him as it will cost too much. Needs to be stripped of the captaincy straight away.

 

I don't think they have, I would say if you take a look at this forum and social media there is a lot of deserved criticism about the hierarchy and the Xiscos appointment. Troy should also take criticism, with all of the negativity at the moment, you would hope that the club captain would unite the players and be positive for the fans not take the piss on Talksport.

 

I've just had a friend text me saying "I’ve just seen that Deeney went on Talk Sport and disclosed what happened when Ivic got sacked. That bloke literally has no shame. How does he get away with it?".

I make no secret of the fact that I absolutely cannot stand the bloke, at this point. I think he holds us back on the pitch, has done for a long time and is clearly well past his prime. He plays when he's unfit and partially injured, gives defenders nothing to worry about and has genuinely almost entirely stopped scoring goals that aren't penalties.

Now, even aside from that, the way the board allow him to be treated as bigger than and above the club is quite disturbing. We've heard multiple stories over the years of him having more influence over things than any player should and it's reared it's head yet again in recent days. Worse than that, we now also have him spewing what you'd expect to be private club details and even effectively slagging off the club that he "captains" on national radio as he attempts to build his media career/profile.

Not only does he get away with these things, the club bizarrely actually comes out and vocally supports him. It's genuinely all very, very strange at this point and I think it's time people open their eyes to what a negative influence he has become at this club and drop the "DEENEY! DEENEY!" crap. We have a number of huge issues at this club right now, and I think it's become clearer and clearer that Deeney is genuinely one of the biggest (lol) ones.

What the f**k is actually going on?

 

Couldn’t care less what he says / does on Talksport. I think he has been decent in recent games. Not brilliant, but better than our other forwards (not difficult). Don’t really get the anti Deeney sentiment to be honest.

 

You don't care about him openly digging the club out on national radio and giving out private club details that you'd never expect any player to be speaking about?

This exactly proves my point. The man can do and say what he wants and get away with it. People happy to excuse behaviour that definitely isn't normal, productive or to the benefit of the club. Quite the opposite.

He's an ego maniac who is completely out for himself and only himself and people lap it up and still buy into the "Mr Watford" bullsh*t.

 

If recent events have shown us anything, it's that Deeney is one of the negative influences in the dressing up. I know people had speculated about this previously, don't know how any reasonable person could dispute this anymore.

 

You could easily substitute the name on the thread title for Gino, Duxbury or in the past Giraldi.

Same answer every time. The fans allow it. A photo of a bloke smiling has swallowed up the loudest Twitter voices, for example. All people with vested interests in keeping the club onside.

 

Again, all part of the problem and exactly why the question is "how (or why) does he get away with it?". None of it is normal.

 

I think with Deeney it's worse because it's so much more brazenly right there in our faces, yet still goes unpunished and often ignored.

As you say, the fans allow all of this to happen just as much as the club do. It's mind blowing.

 

He gets away with it because Duxbury lets him get away with it from what I've read recently.

 

I listened to him on Talksport and didn’t think he said anything out of order. People want players to be honest and give responses in the media that go beyond the bland but when they do they are criticised. Saying nothing is worse, and would have left endless speculation as to what Deeney was being disciplined for. As it stands it still isn’t clear, but at least we have one side. I’d agree Deeney is not good enough for the PL anymore, but he doesn’t pick himself, and I don’t see any better options

 

Dressing room

(although I would guess he has to pay extra to get stuff in his size)

 

Yeah. That's true. It's not like manager's are being forced to pick him (unless they want to keep their jobs)

 

He shouldn't be giving out details. He's the club captain and it's completely unprofessional. Unfortunately that means absolutely nothing to him because his clear priority now is his media career and keeping his name relevant. Also saying "why would I take that job when I'd probably be sacked in 5 months?" is an absolute disgrace. How can anyone actually defend him saying something that stupid? He should be protecting the image of the club, not playing into tearing it apart for f**k sake.

You say he "doesn't pick himself" but look at the track record. Managers are clearly under pressure to play him regardless of circumstances. Starts when out of form, starts when injured, and when a manager butt's head with him they're out the door. As I said, the bloke clearly has an insane amount of power and pull at this club, there's plenty that backs up and proves that, including the bizarre way they jumped to his defence the other day. Never heard anything like it.

Perica is crap and still a better option on the pitch.

 

You can trace the issue back to spending £18m on Gray. He was a huge flop but the club didn’t swallow that mistake and go again. So Deeney continued as the main striker when he obviously wasn’t good enough. As his talent has declined he’s had to resort to more and more desperate measures to retain power and keep himself in the spotlight.

Pearson was meant to be a no nonsense sort of guy, sadly he bought into the Deeney media narrative and kept starting him ahead of Welbeck. Pathetic he didn’t have the guts to pick the better player.

One of the biggest issues for me was the reluctance to come back to training after the restart. With his ability seriously in decline he knew the best way to remain a premier league player was to get the season written off. In the end he was a lone embarrassing voice against the restart, our record pre and post Covid speaks for itself.

Then we have the latest antics. How does he get away with it? Because managers at Watford needs instant success so they know sidelining Deeney will be more detrimental to them than starting him, because he’ll turn the squad against them if he does.

 

Deeney's 'I'm big and ugly enough to take the banter' routine grew old long ago. And he has repeatedly delivered the other team's team talk for them, most notably cajones-gate. There was a time when I felt his longevity provided some consistency between the constantly changing manager situation. But I am now firmly in the camp that Deeney is a significant part of the problem. The statement from Duxbury was unnecessary and exacerbates the player power issues we obviously have with the current squad. When Deeney next falls out with a manager, can you blame the other players for aligning with him given the example the club has set?

 

Yep. We ultimately need better than Deeney, but at the moment he’s the best option. It’s a massive shame that Suraez didn’t want to stay- but it would have been counter productive keeping an unhappy player, who doesn’t want to be there. It looks like we have a few of them already

 

It is rare I agree with Nath, but on Deeney, he is absolutely spot-on. The further Deeney is from this club, the better. Other players can score from penalties, we can do without him on the pitch, and he's poison off it.

 

The club posted a frankly ridiculous statement when they should've kept quiet about his professionalism.

“Nobody at the club is in any doubt over Troy Deeney's high level of professionalism in his work. Troy is quick to hold his hands up when his conduct has fallen short of the required standard but we are satisfied that was not the case.

There will be no hangover from this. We must move on and Troy, as club captain, will play a major role in achieving our aims this season.”

It doesn't even make sense! First sentence says that no-one doubts his professionalism (funny that as he's admitted to coming back out of shape on more than one occasion, has a history of ill-advised comments in the media, said he wanted to leave 30 seconds after relegation), second one says whenever he's not been professional in the past he's held his hands up!!! I can almost see Deeney insisting on the statement and dictating it to Duxbury.

But even if you ignore a) the content being a load of rubbish and b) the statement being completely unnecessary/embarrassing, he's then gone on national radio the very next day and taken the piss out of Gino and Duxbury.

That is the mark of someone that thinks they're untouchable, which in fairness, he is, as Muñoz has had a warning shot across his bows fired by Duxbury's statement.

I wouldn't particularly like him if he was still a good footballer but to see him stinking the place out for years and then lording it over everyone is just utterly galling.

 

Next time there's an at our place I'd love someone to ask if they believe going on the radio the day after and joking about the club sacking managers quickly is a high standard of professionalism. TRoy is quick to hold his hands up about fitness every year - it's getting tiresome

 

What exactly did he say on Talksport? Depending on who you believe in this thread, he was somewhere between needing to be strung up and doing absolutely nothing wrong.