On that note, Palace have been on poor form, but they didn't look on the beach against Chelsea (albeit a London Derby and a game that it's easy to create chances in), perhaps some hope for the Villa game? Cahill out which is a blow, but they have other good defenders
Way too close to call now! A huge week coming up and Friday is the must-win of all must-wins and certainly the most important must-win since the last must-win!
I think they’ll be fine on 36. However, if Villa win in the week and WHU and us don’t draw our game then they may start worrying as they’ll be pulled back in only 3 points clear of Villa with two to play!
I dont think they can be overhauled by everyone, but if we beat Spam and they lose to Saints, we leapfrog them both into 15th! We're all looking at different permutations, but we do have the points on the board, and i'd take that at this stage. I know it's been said a thousand times and we all know how tight it is, but it really is in our hands and if we step up, we can save ourselves on Friday.
If two of us four who are currently fighting out the two remaining relegation slots carry on winning and Brighton don't get another point they could end up 3rd from bottom and after this week end who can say that won't happen
If I have this right and... Brighton lose their remaining games + we win one + spam win one + muff win 2 + villa win no more than 2 WFC 37 Spam 37 Muff 37 Brighton 36 Vile 36 Norwich gone
Sounds strange I know, but if we beat West Ham, West Ham beat Villa, and Bournemouth win against Southampton and Everton, that will happen, if Brighton lose their last three of course. They are not out of it......just yet, but it would be an extraordinary twist of fate. However, if we do beat West Ham and Brighton lose at Southampton, we leapfrog both West Ham and Brighton. Brighton would instantly become more relegation threatened than us. Who would have thought possible a couple of weeks ago?
As had been said: We are all discussing permutations. But the form-book is already in the recycling bin, as Sunday showed.
It would take a freak set of results for Brighton not to get something from Southampton, Newcastle and Burnley. Even we got three points out of that lot.
What worries me most is Everton. They jet off for holiday 2 weeks early and we're down. What worries me 2nd most is our GD could be very bad after the Man City game. We can beat West Ham and still finish below them but if they beat us we will not catch them (due to Man City). If we're going to Arsenal with a slim advantage is our best hope Villa and Bournemouth failing or us getting a result in our own game? Will we win 5 in a row and be talking about Europe next year?
One of the most exciting and tense end of season finishes for a long time ... not necessarily in a positive way in terms of the ***** performance since August of our players, owners and manager (Pearson excepted - his job was difficult enough without being thrown into this unimaginable historic shitfestival) ... a real shame we're having to endure this through this strange Covid-19 time and not at the ground. Being there with other fans is more important to me than being there to watch the players ... and it's the emotional thing you cannot get from this vacuous TV coverage. I've got a horrible feeling we'll go down on goal difference. It would be fun to play Wycombe and Luton next year - but not social distancing with masks on...
I know it's been 3 days but I'm still peed off with Villa and Muff for winning on Sunday. This would have been a very comfortable week had they both drawn or lost.
I mean they were always going to win at some point, law of averages lol, but the manner of victory was annoying
I've been assuming that we need to beat West Ham, not lose to Arsenal and keep the goals down against Man City, but after the appalling displays of Leicester, Man City and Everton over the last couple of days I now think that West Ham will be our most difficult game and that we may pick up more than one point from the others.
A draw tonight would mean that both West Ham and Watford would be mathematically safe if Muff & Villa then lose their next games against Saints and Arsenal respectively I really hope this kind of scenario plays out, as I can't see us achieving safety purely on the back of our own results
If we draw tonight then yes Muff and Villa are each one defeat from relegation. However as pointed out, we play City before Villa play Arsenal on Tuesday.
If we win tonight that'll be enough points to survive in 99% of scenarios. We would only go down from that point if we lost both our remaining games, West Ham beat Man Utd away but then lose to Villa, Villa beat Arsenal and West Ham and also Bournemouth beat Southampton and Everton. Even then all 4 teams would be on 37pts at the final whistle on the final day so it would need a goal difference swing too - although if gets that far that's probably the most likely bit of the whole thing.
If we win tonight we could go down if Bournemouth win twice and West ham beat Villa providing obviously we lose both our games. That's the most likely scenario. I can definitely see Bournemouth getting 4 points and very possibly six but not so sure about Villa. I thought last night was there big chance. As long as it's not us I couldn't give a monkeys who goes down as I have nothing against any of them