Fair idea , but as I have mentioned only way I saw us getting to day 6 with a mathematician chance of winning (gd only) was by outing myself .PJ we all know your good if you believe me then you know I and P.o. are good , plus you know who you have slept with so should have a chance at least at taking down another wolf tomorrow . Thus don't sacrifice yourself yet ,but I would urge other team good voters to follow PJ s lead , does that make sense to you PJ ?
Hmm Meh definite Mike possible , BRLR possible evil , by the way Big Ross , ace way to make people think your good by putting up that helpful summary thread. Clumsy attempts !! If you guys had picked up numerous inferences of last 2 days ( of which after the game Harrow can validate as he has been having a right laugh)I would have had to go for the kamikaze option .
But your Kamikaze option is only viable if the extremely unlikley option that 4 GOODs dies tonight. Even then we woudl still lose the next night. We will definitely kill an EVIL tonight or tomorrow and with a SEER we would have a decent chance, without a seer we would most likely doomed.
I haven't been posting much for a couple of reasons: 1) Work's been manic 2) I have no idea what's going on 3) Every one I have voted for was good - which I admit doesn't put me in a good light 4) See point 2 If the seer says he's the seer, could he lie about being the seer...and I realise I've said seer too many times it's lost its meaning. We've deduced one of he seers was killed. We know the tinker was killed. The Harlot is alive. I think SLB is a fellow good'un. I'm no sure about Norway or Meh. Unless BRLR is playing a very good tactical game by being overly helpful to distract suspicion, I think he's good. So I'm going to look back at Meh and Norway's posts to see if there's anything there.
A back up seer is very aware that they are the last player in the game who can take down the evil team. I do not believe that you would give yourself up after a single vote had been posted. There are 6 good players and 3 evil ones. As all of the evil players are likely to go for the same player, the only reason anyone would mention a player not in the messages is to split the vote for team good. Especially if you "saw" that Meh was evil. It just doesn't add up.
Ive been endowing all of my thoughts today as I feel Im likely to die tonight, and so would like to put them out there. It seems reasonably clear we dont have a witness in this game and reasonably clear that the wolves dont yet know each others identities as we have had 2 attempted kills every night. Therefore the two people who know the most of others identities are The Traitor and PJ, (as he knows who he has stayed with each night) I feel Im not outing PJ in any way by saying this as he is already a marked man but luckily illusive to catch. So PJs decisions are our best indicator in times of confusion.
Last night I stayed I stayed at my home after clearing it up after it was ransacked twice as I felt there was no-one I 'knew' was Good. Just as well as I planned on staying with WaS but decided against it. Phelps slept on the bed the soppy git. As it stands all the people I knew were good are dead so I'm none the wiser than anyone else as it stands. (HH24, Opti, CB. Night 4 stayed at home)
I believe Norway wrote Day 4 Message 1 and Day 5 Message 2. He has an idiosyncratic approach to punctuation (i.e. it's missing quite a lot of the time and he's the only person who puts a space both before and after an exclamation mark). The style of those two messages is so different to anything from the first three days that I'm inclined to believe that he is the back up seer. Having said that, seeing as you've outed yourself as the back up seer, Norway, and you referred to clues that would show that - why don't you tell us exactly what those clues were to give prove your claim? You've gone for a Hail Mary move anyway, so you might as well spell out exactly what your clues were so people are more likely to believe you.
I'm sorry Norway but the only way I could believe you could be the Seer is if I was a second tinker, and the odds of that are hugely slim (but possible if Harrow is really messing with us!). If you are the Seer you should not have outed yourself so early, but I'm much more inclined to believe you're the traitor as that is much more plausible.
As Harrow pointed out, PO is only one vote away from a lynching. I'd ask those yet to vote, to wait for Norway's reply to my request a couple of posts above. If he can't answer it, then it won't make any difference to your vote anyway but if he can come up with something convincing to show he's the back up seer, it might necessitate a rethink!
And technically that's twice BRLR has decided someone's fate. Though this one was far less pressured!
Oh. Well that all escalated a bit quickly. Why were people so keen to pile in on PO so early in the day?
Ive voted for PO so he will be lynched right or wrong. If he is WOLF then its reasonably safe to assume that Norway is Traitor and so we should save a SEER viewing for someone else.
Only just seen this after Ive voted. Good tactic but too late. Ooops EDIT Norway did say the clues were the use of words "see" and "seem" etc in his posts. Which would be clues for both GOOD and EVIL so not a wise tactic if you are The SEER; but a wise tactic if you are the Traitor and want to have a last line of defence for the eventual time you get outed.
Right. I'll message Opti with the result so he can do a write up if he's got time. As not all votes are in and we are nowhere near the deadline it's still the day time and everyone can still chat.
I genuinely think we've got the first wolf (or at the very least the traitor). If not then either me or PO are a second tinker depending on which message today was the Seer.
@Steve Leo Beleck I think it's a combination of frustration, desperation at trying to even the Odds back in Good's favour and that we've had 2 messages indicating PO is Evil now. If they're both wrong then the Universe hates us and the Wolves have played more than just a blinder.
Right, this is how I see it. 1. We lynch PhillipineOrn. 2. Alpha tonight you should eat NorwayOrn. 3. Meh! I couldn't work out who the martyr was but pretty sure not Norway, you eat someone else as the martyr can't hurt Beta. By my reckoning we EVIL will win tonight leaving 3 each!
Yeah but just because 2 messages said PO was evil that doesn't give them any more weight, does it? It could just be the wolf repeating his false claim from yesterday?
I thought that when we got Daft Row. Now he's probably the most smug spect(ta)tre of anyone who's played. That said I do think we have a Wolf. We've had 2 messages calling him Evil now. If one was a Wolf the second can't be, surely?
I think the Wolf has been quite lucky really. ie 1- What are the chances that both DR and CTH were good and one was the tinker just when we had a standoff. 2- None of the WOLVES have mistakenly killed EVILS 3- SEER hasnt picked an EVIL up until today/ 4- Guardian and SEER were killed.
If tonight's the final night, the crucial moment was where we lost domthehornet, presumably our first Seer and CB our Guardian. Well played Evil if so, will want to see how things unfolded to learn from it, and then having a Good named Evil by the Wolf followed up by a Tinker called out by the Seer.
Oh dear not a good time to ride home , wasted sacrifice game over , I now fully understand daft rows feeling of helplessness As they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't force it to drink , See you all next summer My only question is which one was alpha and which was beta? And which was traitor , I gave you a chance to at least take out one evil and you have blown it , this is as embarrassing as a away defeat to Yeovil ! All three team evil survive ,your only hope is a wolf munchies traitor . Did any of you check out the hints I gave ?
