Your 10 Favourite Ever Movies.

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  1. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    It was Heath Ledger’s Magnum opus with his portrayal of the Joker.
     
  2. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Nope, not seen it. Is it any good
     
  3. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Dunno m8.
     
  4. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    For all the hype over Star Wars it's hardly mentioned, same with the myriad of Marvel films.
     
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  5. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Not seen it. It could be brilliant or dreadful, or anything inbetween.
     
  6. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Source?
     
  7. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    Thank you for doing this. It looks like it was a lot of work.

    The distribution of votes shows that The Shawshank Redemption is a definite outlier.
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  8. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I think it is just fashionable to say Shawshank Redemption. Yes it was a decent film, but the best of all time, I don' t think so.

    And before you ask me what is. All I can say is there are so many great films it's impossible to narrow it down to one.

    Let's face it we all have different tastes, so it is really down to the individual.
     
  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Some times I feel like throwing my hands up in the air.
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  10. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Squad Player

    I think so.
     
  11. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    No love for The Dark Knight?!
     
  12. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    Showing my age but they don’t make them like they used to..

    The Seven Samurai (subtitled, precursor to The Magnificent Seven, also good)
    1984
    The Cruel Sea
    Goodbye Mr Chips (original b&w version, not the Martin Clunes remake)
    Shawshank
    Zulu
    Schindlers List
    Saving Private Ryan
    The Sting
    Ghost (got me due to bereavement - and Demi Moore)
    Silence
    The Mission
    The Birds
    Goodfellas
    Mars Attacks

    More than 10 but these all come to mind…
     
  13. Sahorn

    Sahorn Reservist

    True, but then the OP asked for personal favourites, not ‘the best of all time’.

    I included Shawshank due to the whole range of human interactions and emotions, power, corruption, drive to do better or give up, friendship etc.
    Good storyline and acting and no unnecessary ’pretty female actress’ distraction.
     
  14. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    It's impossible to have such a thing due to everybody's personal tastes, so it's probably best to say "Most Popular" film. Shawshank would appear to have won that race from all the replies.
     
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  15. The Whoosh Magnet

    The Whoosh Magnet Academy Graduate

    No one's seen it. It probably doesn't exist.
     
  16. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I’m not sure about that, there are various qualities which you could rate a movie by to assess whether it was ‘better’ than others and eventually reach an assessment of the ‘best’. If that weren’t the case, multiple sites on the internet rating the ‘best of’ various things would be redundant.

    However, it’s probably the case that this can only be done ‘accurately’ by someone with some expertise such as a film critic or director.

    On another note, Oppenheimer should be in that list somewhere.
     
  17. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    In addition to @Diamond 's excellent list, it goes to show that even I with a list of 10 missed out films that are also excellent but my list would have been longer. There are also some (supposedly) excellent films that I haven't seen; there are films that I haven't watched in many years like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest" & "Bladerunner" for example; also looking at the list there are some films that I enjoyed when I was younger but having watched again when older I thought was meh, "Ferris Beuller's Day Off" being an example.
     
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  18. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Oppenheimer is 108 on the IMDB all time list. Apparently they don’t use the simple average total score/total votes, but some secret weighted average, so I’d guess age factors into it somehow as well.
     
  19. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Disagree. There really is no such thing as "best movie" as all the measures that would need to be made are subjective and different assessors would have different views. Yes you can put some very experienced film buffs "in a room" to assess but that is a "dodgy" way to arrive at "the best film" - why is their view any more important than Ethel Smith from Wigan ? Does anyone think that the film chosen during The Oscars is the best film of the year or is it just the film that has been chosen by a panel to win an award ? How do you measure a Life of Brian vs a Saving Private Ryan and say which is better. As others have said, the only real measure is how popular a film is, and that is probably the best, albeit imperfect, measure of "how good" a film is.
     
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  20. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Agree, I’d rather place more weight in what actual normal people have enjoyed, over some snobby critic. The amount of times I’ve read a review of something and then watched it and reached a completely different view, often questioning if they even watched it.

    Shawshank is a good example, IMDB also have the Metascore rating next to each film, which is an average of the review scores of loads critics from various well known publications. The Metascore rating is often wildly different and sometimes drastically lower, but rarely higher. Shawshank has a Metascore rating of 82/100 but the user rating is 9.3 out of 10… but amongst the critics reviews is this one from the Washington post:

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  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    We're all different but to truly enjoy a film, I need to either believe and get engrossed in the story, care about what happens and not be able to predict the outcome or I need to laugh my socks off. So I often struggle with Sci-fi as I often don't believe it and find myself looking at the film from a "that's clever, I wonder how they did that" POV. eg Star Wars. Mrs TuT claims I have "no imagination" (we are justtalking about films here!). I prefer to see it that I'm not easily taken in.... Biopics are wasted on me unless I'm really learning something interesting I didn't know about the individual, otherwise "That's not really Elton John" "That's not really Stephen Hawking" "That's not really Freddie Mercury" etc etc
     
  22. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    So all awards ceremonies - for anything - are pointless?

    Mrs Brown's Boys is very popular. Does that make it better than other TV programmes? Seems that it does on your analysis.

    Monet was clearly a better artist than Ella aged 3 who has drawn a picture of a snowman. David Bowie is clearly better thn Black Lace. Why should films be any different?
     
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  23. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Well, I agree with the critic. It is overly sentimental.
     
  24. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    No I didn't say award ceremonies are pointless ?
    No that wouldn't make Mrs BB "better" than other programmes but it would make it "more popular" than some other programmes.
    I think we need to get away from trying to say that there is such a thing as all encompassing "best" film, album etc etc. It's just too subjective. We all have our own favourites but shouldn't look to say that others are wrong to have different favourites. Award ceremonies are fine as a bit of fun and to promote some of the new acts/low budget films that might otherwise not get recognition, though there is of course some subjectivity in which get a mention/award.
     
  25. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    You said that popularity is the best, albeit imperfect, measure of how good something is.

    I entirely agree that all forms of art are subjective but this doesn't mean that we need to be precluded from assessing the quality of it: see the last sentence of my previous post.
     
  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes, "albeit imperfect".
    I hate Mrs BB. It's obviously popular with many who clearly enjoy it. To follow the logic "more popular => better" you'd need to compare it with other programmes of a similar type on a similarly widely available and publicised channel, no point in comparing with an obscure BBC4 documentary on at the same time for example ! Really no point.
    I'd love to say that Mrs BB is crap. I probably have :) ! However it clearly isn't to everyone, no matter what I or any TV critic says.
     
  27. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Well, if you are saying that one can only evaluate like with like then yes, I agree. It would be odd to compare MBB with (say) 'Succession' or 'The West Wing' But I still think you could meaningfully assess that (say) 'Friends' is 'better' than MBB (and I don't personally like either).
     
  28. Ilkley

    Ilkley Formerly known as An Ilkley Orn Baht 'at

    Succession

    I see what you did there.
     
  29. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I don't think you can objectively assess that "Friends" is "better" than MBB. I think you can say that it's more popular and therefore more people enjoy/prefer it and that that is perhaps the most important measure of a TV show rather than if it is artistically "better".
    PS I presume MBB is still Mrs Brown's Boys rather than Men Behaving Badly which i'm sure would have drawn a different conclusion from you :) ?!?
     
  30. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I'm not sure it was deliberate as he very very quickly corrected it while I was busy typing a post to point it out........
     
  31. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Of course you can. You can assess the quality of the writing, the acting, the characterisation etc etc. Just as you can assess the quality of David Bowie's songwriting, originality and performance against that of Black Lace. (Personally I am not that keen on Bowie but he is clearly the 'better' artist).
     
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  32. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I think I would accept that it is difficult to establish the best because, at the top of the tree, it is very hard to distinguish one genius piece of art/performance etc from another as they will be perfect (or nearly) on all relevant metrics. But I don't think this means we need to collapse into complete subjectivity and just concede everything to popularity.
     
  33. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    It's all subjective and different people will have different views. Who says the writing, the acting, the characterisation etc etc is "better" ? If we all agreed on such assessments we would all watch the same comedy shows !
    You can't tell a Black Lace fan that they are foolish to like that band and should like Bowie because he's "better".
     
  34. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I think there is a significant enough difference between popularity being inferred by viewing figures which is a passive indicator, and people going out of their way to actually review and rate a film. Obviously there will be a large crossover between popularity and actual quality, but quality is far more inferred by active ratings.
     
  35. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    But taken to its extreme that argument means we can never evaluate anything against anything else. What gives me the authority to say one student essay is better than another? The answer is that there are certain accepted criteria of evaluation.

    No, we wouldn't all end up watching the same thing. It's quite possible to enjoy something if it isn't artistically 'better', just as it is possible to dislike something which is thought of highly. I think there is a difference between 'worth' and personal preference.
     
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