Why is Deeney STILL untouchable?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by NathWFC, Aug 17, 2019.

  1. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    Then the manager should resign.
     
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  2. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Wish him a speedy recovery. At least we have a chance to change things up now. Different formation maybe? Oh wait...
     
  3. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Sarr probably. Maybe have him as a sub if ready.
     
  4. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team

    Forced Gracia’s hand into changing the team/system, I’m ok with this.
     
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  5. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Or forced his hand into swapping Deeney for Okaka or Success and changing absolutely nothing else at all...
     
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  6. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Maybe it could give Success the kick up the @rse he needs. Keeps him off the Baileys
     
  7. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    We will support u m8. But if u let us down, were b or worse enemy.
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    This is what I fear. 1 forced change means a reluctance to change anything else.

    Managers like to be 2 steps behind the curve on making the right changes for some reason.
     
  9. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    Possibly. We only have 44 hours to wait and see.
     
  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Maybe Welbeck and Okaka can do a half each - should manage that.
     
  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Probably stretch to a half between them. Max.
     
  12. Danny.Welbeck

    Danny.Welbeck Academy Graduate

    I'll cope, I'm used to 60,000 morons booing
     
  13. Danny.Welbeck

    Danny.Welbeck Academy Graduate

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  14. AupaAthletic

    AupaAthletic Academy Graduate

    If one of Captain Talisman's best atributes is his passing, why then, has he got the worst pass completition rate of any outfield player?
     
  15. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    Collins John?
     
  16. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    4 albums, 4 different line ups.

    So not Javi.
     
  17. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    You appear to have got the triangle sign the wrong way round.

    An Arts man?
     
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  18. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

  19. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Reservist

    6-3-1 formation then?

    One way to maximise the number of RBs we can use...
     
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  20. AupaAthletic

    AupaAthletic Academy Graduate

    It was such an intelligent run, Captain Talisman was offside, rendering his poor effort meaningless. Albeit, it was incredible seeing him actually running past a defender, regardless of his timing.
    Whilst, of his 37 goals in the PL, 35% have been penalties, none of which he won himself. He's a second division striker at best, and then, only if putting in a similar level of effort to his previous stint in that tier.
     
  21. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    But the ‘turd on Ssssilva’s desk drawer’ rumour gives him possible statue status.
     
  22. RookeryDad

    RookeryDad Squad Player

    I’m afraid it might be 20,000 morons booing 3 times as loud on Saturday.
     
  23. Forzainglese

    Forzainglese Reservist

    Because he attempts difficult flicks and set-ups in heavily defended areas instead of routine side-ways and diagonals out of defence?
    I'm not trying to break my neck defending him, but these selective stats really don't us the whole story, do they?
     
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  24. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team

    Damn it Nath, I had a little bit of hope for JUST a second there....
     
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  25. He’s not as bad as some say. Just misses pace, which in the prem is a must have.
     
  26. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Its 'your be are worse enemy' m8. Ffs.
     
  27. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I agree.
    His football intelligence on the pitch is actually among the best we have - it’s just the body in which he keeps that brain isn’t up to the standard of the players around him.
     
  28. NemoNemo

    NemoNemo Reservist

    If you are happy with that, then fair enough, but he needs to improve on that if we want to challenge for a place in Europe. Obviously we need to start winning games, but 2 games, 0 goals is not a good start plus he's now laid off for a bit.
     
  29. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I would love him to get more but I'm not sure we have anybody that would or could get more. Going on this season stats is probably a little harsh. Lets see how his replacement gets on
     
  30. CleyHorn

    CleyHorn Reservist

    It's hard to judge a player when he's playing when carrying an injury and you don't know that. The reasonable assumption is that the head coach would know if he's unfit, without the onus on Troy alone to identify that, and wouldn't be playing him in that condition given that he has a number of other options. So if Troy's been playing when he really shouldn't have been, then that's at least as much Javi's fault as his and would lend weight to the 'too big to drop' argument.

    I remember a, couple of seasons or so back, giving Troy a bit of a hard time along 'too slow and past it lines' similar to the sort of stick he's getting on here now. Then he came back with a second wind. He'd had previous dips and troughs and resergences too.

    I'd be happy to give him another chance this time when he's fully fit again. A 'third wind' if you like.
     
  31. AupaAthletic

    AupaAthletic Academy Graduate

    Selective? They are from a full season, when, according to some, he played quite well. As for the ludicrous notion, that he attempts harder passes, well, that truly beggars belief. Neither of your points though, deflect from my original comment, which, was aimed at the poster who said passing was one of his best attributes.
     
  32. GoingDown

    GoingDown Pizza & Figs

    We already have the 'thinks he knows it all' poster who also supports a Spanish team quota filled. You aren't very good in comparison.

    Please try again.
     
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  33. AupaAthletic

    AupaAthletic Academy Graduate

    Basque club. So, what is it that displeases you, the truth? Or, presumably, you're another sycophant incapable of reasoned discussion.
     
  34. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Bilbao is a Spanish city. In the Basque Country, sure. But in Spain all the same. You’re interpretation of that may be different but it’s not fact. It’s factual that Bilbao is in Spain. The truth can indeed be displeasing...
     
  35. Bilbao is a hobit.
     
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