Werewolf XVII - Day 4

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  1. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    The wolf watched HornetGags through the window. The priest had knelt at the bottom of his bed, praying quietly. 'Oh Lord, protect me from the evil that ravages this village. Help me to guide my flock to safety, and most importantly allow the mayors wife to visit me in the confession booth again! Amen!' He crossed himself, stood and climbed into bed before blowing out the sole candle lighting the room.

    Wanting to waste no time, the wolf simply plowed through the window. Shattered glass flew through the air, and HornetGags shot out of bed. In the moonlight he could make out the silhouette of the wolf. 'Stay back you evil beast!' he grabbed a wooden cross from nearby 'the power of christ comp.........' His words were cut off as the wolf lunged forwards slamming a clawed fist into his stomach. HornetGags doubled over. The wolf laid his two large paws gently on either side of the priests head. 'Christ can't save you now!' it growled. With that it pulled upwards with all it's might. The head came clean off the shoulders, dangling a length of spinal cord. HornetGags eyes moved silently, pleadingly for a brief period of time and then stilled.

    Hornetgags was good.

    Across the village the other wolf lay in wait, nestled in the bushes in Casetti's Beard's garden. It pondered the fact for the moment that CB's garden was the most untidy in the village, even though the man was a professional landscapist and gardener. As midnight approached, the backdoor to the house opened and CB appeared. He looked around carefully, then quickly marched across the garden and into his shed. Inside CB smiled at the 20 cannabis plants that sat on the floor. They had grown incredibly well recently, but were not quite ready for harvesting. He gave them a little water from his watering can and then sat in his deck chair pulling a small leather wallet from his pocket. He reached over for his bong, lighting it with his 'Fed up of this ****' lighter. He took a deep drag, 'Dats sum gooooood ****!'

    Outside the wolf sniffed the air, it knew that smell. It liked that smell. It pushed the shed door open, and padded gently inside. Oblivious CB took another long hit on his bong. He never saw the wolf behind him, but he certainly felt it when the wolf clamped its jaws around his neck. The wolf squeezed, and its sharp teeth went through the neck like a knife through butter. As CB bled to death, the wolf took a hit from the bong. 'That is good! it growled. Of course the wolf then got the munchies so devoured most of Casetti's Beard.

    Cassetti's Beard was good.

    The guardian stood watch over Miked2006 house that night.
     
  2. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Village will close at 9pm on friday evening. Or sooner if all votes are cast.
     
  3. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    All I can say is sorry HH.
     
  4. 352

    352 Moderator

    No Seer now. Diamond jumped to conclusions far too quickly after that HH reply saying 'that message couldn't be me', etc. Wolf behaviour? Only if you think he has play it amazingly with the message yesterday (day before) or if he got REALLY lucky and is the second wolf.

    I am thinking of voting Diamond now just because the sheer audacity of it all would kill me if he turns out to be evil.
     
  5. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Yep, that's exactly what I did, much to my horror.
     
  6. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I knew HH was good after she? was agreeing with everything I had said. Seriously, Mike was on my radar yesterday and is even more so now.

    Obviously if he was the wolf, he would not kill me as then it would look very suspicious that the person accusing him ended up dead! So hes let me live...

    Vote Mike people!
     
  7. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator


    FFS - that's 2 really bloody awful days in a row. Sorry HH24.

    I pointed out yesterday that HH used 'Watch' and 'Watching' in their opening post and I assumed they were the Seer - could they possibly have been the Guardian? We may still have our Seer?

    No idea what to do now. WE NEED MESSAGES EARLY!!!!! If there is still a seer, get seeing ASAP.
     
  8. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I am the Guardian.
     
  9. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Thanks Guardian for your help, although it looks like I'm going to be a sitting target this evening.

    Does anyone know if Optis wolf kills above are in order i.e. kill 1 Alpha, kill 2 Beta?

    If they are, it might be useful to copy and paste who the beta etc. is targeting to see if there is a pattern?
     
  10. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I really don't understand your unfounded vendetta against me.

    Usually I'd question those who turned on Happy first. I still however think that Diamond is good, but you I am not so sure.
     
  11. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I am good, hence me outing myself, so that the rest of you can concentrate on getting evil today.
     
  12. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    To be fair, if you are actually the wolf it would be a very clever move.

    You'd be putting team good in a very difficult situation: by asking the guardian to reveal themselves, as the only very good character in the game.

    I believe there are better explanations for why you are good, which I'll dig up after my first meeting (which ends around 11am).
     
  13. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Are you lying?

    Edit: Seen Miked reply above. So we don't expect a Seer message today then. I guess that means the Wolf won't bother posting as well right? So we have to go on past posts and messages, none of which have been particularly helpful.
     
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  14. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Six players. Two wolves.

    1 wrong lynch today leaves 5 with the wolves having two kills to make. If the wolves get it right over night, they will win.

    Important vote today guys, but I think I'm going with Mike. Up until yesterday where I accused him, he was posting things which were simply not engaging in any discussion hence not drawing attention to himself. A tactic I've used before.

    Open to other suggestions but I doubt they will change my mind.
     
  15. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    It's just very wolf likely behaviour.

    My other suspect by the way 352 for basically the same reasons.
     
  16. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    This town (ahhhhh), is coming like a ghost town... All the clubs have been closed (burnt) down...

    In the absence of a second Guardian coming out, Diamond I assume is in the clear unless the real guardian is too scared to come forward yet.
     
  17. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    If Ashdon turns out to be a wolf I'd be a bit disappointed. Not much activity at all.
     
  18. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    To be fair non-active Wolves tend to do very well. I'm still shocked at how wrong I was about HH so I'll just be giving my thoughts today without finger pointing.
     
  19. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    They do well but it's boring.

    I'm not going to be swayed today, I'm getting my vote in nice and early as I'm certain we have no more seer and I may not be online too much from midday. Sorry Mike. I just have this feeling you are evil by the way you were acting in the first two days. Not much to go on which is down to some smart play by the wolves it has to be said.
     
  20. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Diamond is well and truely in my line of sight today. I foolishly followed him into voting for HH and now this has happened. A terrible sequence of days for Good despite a cracking start to the game. It's pretty much a guessing game now.

    If Diamond has outed himself as the guardian he will surely be taken by the wolf tonight anyway, although I don't know if we can afford to leave that to chance...
     
  21. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    I've been doing my best to get involved, but given the circumstances of being away with highly limited internet access, and then returning and heading straight back into work it's not been easy. Particularly with no real solid to base any theories on.
     
  22. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Nothing in the rules to say he can't guard himself!
     
  23. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I know I am not going to win you over, but I am good. It is bizarre that you can accuse me of not pointing fingers, but there are a number on here who have pointed fewer. Those who seem to have pointed the most fingers seem to have killed the most good players. You are incidentally yet to vote for an evil player.

    You really are not helping team goods cause with your personal crusade. I usually trust my gut on these things: my gut has been telling me that you are good but misguided, but this is quickly fading.

    I know this might be quite unpopular, but somehow my gut is still telling me to follow Diamond (although leading the charge against Happy, I admit, was a real blow).
     
  24. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Fair enough. Wasn't aware you have been away.

    I'm not too suspicious of you anyways, Mike and 352 are the wolves IMO. I'd vote for either of those if I were you!
     
  25. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Read what HH wrote on Day 3, knowing that she was the Seer. That's all you need to do to clear me.
     
  26. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I was going to ask Opti about that as I'm not sure myself.
     
  27. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    From the backup Seer.
     
  28. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    That's a blatant lie!

    You said this yesterday, and I quote:

     
  29. 352

    352 Moderator

    It doesn't rule out you being evil. You could have got very lucky with an alpha wolf calling you out as good.

    Why would you out yourself as the Guardian as it gives one wolf a free kill tonight..! Even if we lynch one you're dead tonight if you're telling the truth.

    The only reason a clever player would have said this surely is because they want to shore up the fairly commonly held belief that you are good. The wolves only really need one more night and a ploy like this - if you have indeed been a very canny albeit quite lucky wolf - would guarantee you get that night. If you are a wolf...

    Starting to doubt you more today. All this stuff about quiet wolves and so on as well, with you taking a different approach to the standard 'quiet wolf' once on day one we established that team good would be looking out for quiet players.

    I'm sorry if you are the guardian but you really didn't need to say that if you are. You had already been all but cleared in most people's minds. This only brings the spotlight back on you and your actions.

    We may still have a seer and HH was the guardian...

    If we get one message today and we assume it's from the wolf we could be making a mistake. If we get no message we definitely don't have a seer. But now I assume the wolf will send something if it's getting late and the seer is indeed dead.
     
  30. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I see Harrow has now disappeared...

    I will be voting early today as well as I will be going out for work drinks in the early afternoon, and do not trust myself beyond that point. I have about an hour to make up my mind.
     
  31. 352

    352 Moderator

    By the way, in case I need to spell it out, I really am not a wolf. I'll buy every single one of you a car if I am shown to be a wolf. I am a simple villager, trying to work out how to catch one wolf who is likely to be quiet, and another... That might be quiet but might not be.
     
  32. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Chill out, I actually forgot I said it at all.
     
  33. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

     
  34. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I have followed Diamond’s logic thus far, but this part does add up.

    Let’s say that Diamond is the wolf, and that he knows that the finger is going to be pointed his way after HH24’s lynching. The best possible play is to try and take out the guardian as soon as possible. Either by lynching - if Diamond can out-argue them -, or by the wolves later tonight. This would leave team good with no “very good” players, with next to no chance of winning the game.

    On the balance of things, I would probably have advised that the guardian kept quiet, and only revealed themselves if they believed that the wrong person is being killed. They are more important than any one player, and otherwise team evil will get two kills tonight instead of one.

    I'm not sure that this adds up. The guardian protected myself and wouldn't be able to if they had been killed, I believe. Please can we have clarification Opti?
     
  35. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    Yeah this is what I said above. HH was out before the night time choices were made so couldn't have been the guardian. Therefore we still have a guardian.
     
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