Werewolf XVI: Day 7

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  1. merchandiseman41

    merchandiseman41 Reservist

    I can't see on my mobile who voted for Harrow yesterday. Me obviously, I assume Was but who else.

    I know this puts me in the firing line but wouldn't someone from team evil have voted for him too to get him lynched? Does the Wolf vote? I assume so. Therefore wolf would have voted perhaps fir who he knew as good bearing in mind most players left are experienced at this game

    So seven players should be considered, myself included.

    As a point of interest to me I have no idea why The Guardian came and sat outside my shop. It's not like I am vocal in this game. I have no friends inside or out of this game as far as I'm aware. But it is nice to be still involved as I'm just getting into it.

    Assuming Was voted for Harrow that's where I'm going.

    Please give me some help or guidance though

    I will vote before 4.30pm today as out to deepest Bucks where Internet hasn't arrived yet
  2. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    All that really does is confirm who posted which message, which we knew already (message 1 yesterday and message 2 today same person; message 2 yesterday message 1 today same person). The second message yesterday also called him 'With A Smile'.
  3. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    The other option yesterday was WAS, yea? So if WAS is good then your comment has no logic at all?
  4. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    After a quick search, it seems the only person still alive who has referred to WAS as 'With A Smile' is.....you.
  5. wfcmatt

    wfcmatt First Year Pro

    Exactly. I may be wrong but I believe Harrow, WAS and Abso (at least yesterday) were all good, and as such the wolf would've been laughing and had free reign to vote for either Harrow or WAS. The wolf may have believed voting for WAS was the less suspicious option.
  6. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    No i voted for HH24 ! Again one of my random votes, but it was if i was killed by the wolf last night, knowing i was good, that i thought it could be a player who might have slipped under the radar
  7. sonofben

    sonofben Reservist

    Nice not to have to scroll through 10 pages any more. My thoughts on this are, With A Smile, was the other person under suspicion yesterday, so it would seem like the seer would not waste there time viewing him, as he was naturally going to be under suspicion today as well.
  8. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    OK. Trying to stick to logic.
    1. Case 1 - vote for WAS. Rationale: he was one of those most vocal about not voting for Moog (evil) instead of miked (very good). At that point the two remaining wolves might have known each other's identity. PO was convinced WAS was the remaining wolf and was killed overnight. CB, who also voted for WAS, was also killed.
    2. Case 2 - vote for Squibba. The above is all a little too convenient ie the Wolf knows that's the train of thought we'll go down so sets WAS up. (Although, looking back I see that Ashdon & fox in the box were both dispatched after voting for Moog so it's not impossible.) Squibba is one of the 'quiet players' that Ashdon alluded to.
  9. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    If I was the wolf, I couldn't have killed both of them, that's just coincidental
  10. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

  11. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Can anyone repost the last 3 day's messages together? Since the new Seer came in. I know previous days have no bearing on the new wolf but some lateral thinking might be possible. Or even just looking at styles. I'm on my mobile just now so can't do it as easily as someone on a laptop or PC. If not, I'll try later.
  12. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Right. Out on school run now & then have parent's evening so won't be back online until around 7pm. PO will be cursing me from the grave but I am actually gravitating towards voting for Squibba at the moment. Will make a final decision when back, though.
  13. sonofben

    sonofben Reservist

    good Morning villagers from your Seer on Day 4 in the village.

    Whilst it is a shame darave8 turned out to be good, nobody could have justified not lynching him. We made the right call, unfortunately it was the wrong result for darave8, but at least that confusion is over and done with.

    Following on from a few of his postings yesterday where he seemed to agree with Diamond on a number of points, and continued suspicion this morning, I have today decided to view nairobi hornet.

    nairobi hornet is GOOD.

    To those of you who are requesting that I view miked2006, I am going to reiterate my point once again. I have already viewed miked2006, and he is GOOD.

    Enjoy your fourth day in the village. It's looking as though we may be able to get this all sewn up by the weekend or the early part of next week if there is indeed a full moon.

    Your Seer
    Anonymous message #2:

    Quote Originally Posted by ???
    My friends, we got really unlucky yesterday with Darave being the tinker, however the scales have swung massively in our favour today. First one wolf killed another, and now our suspicions have been confirmed.

    Miked2006 is evil!

    If we get rid of him today then we are almost there!

    Kind regards,
    Your Seer

    Day 5.

    Morning villagers,

    Before today I was a simple villager, but I checked my e-mail this morning and to my surprise I had received a message telling me that I am now the Seer.

    At the request of some of the players I decided to view wfcmoog. And it's our lucky day! Wfcmoog is EVIL.

    Vote him off today and we're almost there!

    Your new seer

    Anonymous message #2 (16:25):

    Quote Originally Posted by ???
    I am your new seer. I have waited all day to post this message, so that I could see how other villagers were reacting to the wolfs message. I opted against viewing Moog, and have decided to view Harrow, as I just had a gut feeling about him.

    Harrow is evil!

    If we get rid of him, then I reckon we will be down to 1 wolf in the village. This is a fight we can definitely win!

    Day 6.

    Morning villagers,

    Congratulations for last Friday, where we voted off the evil Moog after my successful viewing of him.

    Today I decided to view WAS following some suspicion of him. Unfortunately WAS is GOOD.

    The odds were always going to be against us selecting the last remaining evil player, and sadly luck was not in our favour today.

    To clear up a point, it has been made clear to me that I am the second seer- no third seer has been drafted in and in fact no third seer will be even if I am killed.

    Your new(ish) seer
    Anonymous message #2 (14:00):

    Quote Originally Posted by ???
    Afternoon villagers,

    Well done for seeing sense and voting off Moog last Friday.

    After a lot of careful deliberation over the weekend, I decided to view Abso, unfortunately he is GOOD.

    I really did not trust Abso after Friday, but thought him more likely than With A Smile who I shall view tomorrow, despite him being 'viewed' by the wolf today.

    I still think it is too early for With A Smile to be making such a brazen move as declaring himself evil.

    Sorry this is not much help today

    Your seer
  14. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Based on?
  15. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    No point doing it if its just a quick search.

    I have seen a couple of messages after this that sonofben also called him With A Smile so would be surprised if he hasn't said that before.
  16. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    The only person to call him 'With a Smile' yesterday was opti although happy for someone to correct me if I'm wrong.

    WT, when did I do it? Haven't looked through todays comments or any before yesterday
  17. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    the fact that there is a counter to my being named good, so one good one evil message = 50/50

    You are simply named as plain evil = 100%
  18. sonofben

    sonofben Reservist

    Just a note. I called him With a Smile today, so I avoided typing WAS was.
  19. sonofben

    sonofben Reservist

    That doesn't seem to make sense. His evil was a 50/50 chance of being the seer or the wolf, therefore it cannot be 100%
  20. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Guess I didn't look thoroughly enough, sorry.

    Day 4, I think. Doubt there's anything in it tbh
  21. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    I'll have a proper look later through the last couple of days later on and see if I can find anyone else doing it
  22. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Not true and I think that's the second time you've accused Squibba of being definitively evil based on today's messages. If you are a tinker, you could have been named evil by the Seer and the alpha wolf could be throwing Squibba into the mix. Similarly, you could be named by the Wolf as a tactic and Squibba is a tinker. However, you seem determined to undermine Squibba and it looks to me like you're trying to make it into a 2 way contest like you did with Harrow yesterday. That does not indicate team good behaviour to me.
  23. sonofben

    sonofben Reservist

    I don't disagree with your point, can you just explain your reasoning on how, making it a 2 person contest, is not good behavior?
  24. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Because it might be neither of you. I'd prefer to hear your defence for being good rather than how you "know" Squibba to be evil. I know the messages are the best evidence and I'm just going through them again now. I forgot to take into account that you are named as good in the message declaring Squibba as evil. My mistake.
  25. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Moog was named as evil on the day he was lynched I believe.
  26. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Although a lot of people wanted to lynch him the day before
  27. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    How's it not a 2 way contest ?

    We have both been named as evil between the two messages.
  28. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    The only way we are both good is if Squibba is the other tinker

    I've been quite happy to openly search or fish for a response, I was quite happy to name Diamond and Nairobi quite early on and Diamond himself admitted in the Tavern that he tried to kill me the night the guardian kindly saved me. I've openly voted against the crowd, haven't tried to hide, but have always given a reason.

    Making accusations and chucking mud isn't a good way for a wolf to play, but it is a good way to highlight yourself and raise suspicion of others if you are killed
  29. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    Apologies for several messages all at once but I have to go out soon then I'll only be around for a short time before a school awards thingy tonight.

    As I see it, I have 3 people I am most suspicious of:

    WAS because he's been named in more than one message and is attacking Squibba rather than defending himself. If he's a normal villager, he knows more about Squibba than the rest of us. And for voting for Heppy yesterday without a shred of evidence.

    Squibba for being named in a message as evil and voting for Harrow yesterday when it was more likely Harrow was named evil by the wolf the same day as the Seer named Moog as evil. Votes were tighter than usual yesterday so I think the wolf could have been persuaded to vote for a known good and show their hand, especially with several others. It would have been easier to vote elsewhere.

    Abso. Still my prime suspect. No vote yesterday and yet he lives on. Named in a message yesterday but seemingly ignored by most.
  30. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    If villagers think that Squibba is the tinker then we should look at some quieter players as well

    I was really surprised that another "I'm not very good at this" player in HH24 didn't question why I voted for them last night. Even a old erratic vote causes concern of identification. Sometimes it's easier to leave it alone and let it brush it's self under the carpet. If I don't mention it it will go away !!

    Thats what I have meant about fishing, just looking for unusual responses to accusation and wired voting.
  31. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Will have to vote before 5 each night this week as my wifi router/tv box is getting lifted by the UPC company tonight (between 5 and 8pm) so won't have wifi in my flat
  32. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Steve, If I had followed the crowd all game then i could easily defend myself, i voted for them bla bla bla, but I haven't played safe

    It's easy when you know which message is from whom, you can only do that when you are named in one and you know your "role".
  33. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Voting WAS tonight as tomorrow night we will have killed one wolf at least, if not the tinker.

    WAS has played a strange game and pretty much accused everyone but himself at some stage and was of course also named yesterday.

    If he is good I will obviously vote Squibba tomorrow
  34. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    Window before parent's evening. So I'm in a quandary. Trying to stick to logic which tells me:
    - IF message one is from the Seer, wolf had no option but to call someone else evil. If he had bluffed by calling someone good, only one player would be named as evil & as a group we would have been more likely to go with that (as seen yesterday with poor Harrow's untimely demise)
    - IF message two is from the Seer, fair play but I'm surprised he viewed Squibba. I'd have thought there were other quiet players that would be on the radar ahead of Squibba.

    However, looking at yesterday's messages, if the first one was from the Wolf - saying WAS was good - why didn't the Seer view him before the second message? That would have been the logical thing to do, surely? Which makes me think message one may have been the seer?
    Bugger - have to go. Will keep changing mind then make final decision when back.
  35. steve harrow

    steve harrow Reservist

    A tinker doesn't know they're a tinker but I get your point.

    It seems that most people are like me and are torn between you and Squibba. Like I said, Abso is suspect to me but I think he would be a wasted vote tonight and after all, you and Squibba have been named as evil today. Can't one of you make it easier and just admit you're a wolf?
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