Werewolf - Road To Qatar - Day 3

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Otter, Nov 18, 2022.

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Day 3 lynching

Poll closed Nov 18, 2022.
  1. AshdonWFC

    0 vote(s)
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  2. HappyHornet24

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  3. miked2006

    36.4%
  4. nornironhorn

    54.5%
  5. Optimistichornet

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  6. Steve Leo Beleck

    9.1%
  7. TomWatfordFC

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  8. tonycotonstache

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  9. wfcmoog

    0 vote(s)
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  10. wfcSinatra

    0 vote(s)
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  11. With A Smile

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  1. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    You keep going on about the Harrow shenanigans on Day 1 but it's totally illogical for the reasons I set out to Moog earlier.

    It assumes that I @ed Harrow as I was the traitor, knew he was a wolf that hadn't played and was trying to make sure he wasn't killed off for inactivity. But read back through that afternoon's play, when he didn't respond to my message, I then set out why lynching him as an inactive would be a better play for the village, using probability to set out why. This was when he still had a couple of hours to post and it clearly influenced several people to vote for him as they explicitly said so. There is no way this fits with a traitor - unless you can explain otherwise?

    Of course, that doesn't confirm me as Good but it does rule out I'm the traitor (unless you think I would knowingly try and get a wolf killed, in the complete opposite of what the role actually is!)
     
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  2. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    I get where you are coming from SLB, yes. But you can't just ignore the fact you have been named today in a message which is quite conceivably from an evil player, who happens to have named you as good.

    The list of active players is dwindling.

    I believe the following players to be confirmed good:
    nornironorn
    wfcmoog
    tonycotonstache
    AshdonWFC

    Good vibes:
    HappyHornet24
    miked2006

    Undetermined / minimal vibes:
    Optimistichornet
    With A Smile

    Evil vibes:
    Steve Leo Beleck - for reasons I have expressed.
    wfcSinatra - likes to accuse me with little credible evidence.
    TomWatfordFC - purely for the silence and minimal contribution to the conversation.

    I would be happy with a seer view on any of the bottom three there tomorrow.
     
  3. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I'm not saying that I'm proven Good for the rest of you - I'm not and made that clear in the post you were replying to. I'm just saying that your suspicions seem to mainly stem from Day 1 and they are demonstrably illogical.

    Do you concede that I'm definitely not the traitor?
     
  4. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    I believe nornironorn and Moog are good. I think the ill will towards Sinatra is unfounded. Very unsure about Ashdon and SLB at the moment.
     
  5. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    If the Guardian survives the lynching, they have to protect Moog as the only confirmed Good player.
     
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  6. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Haha! No, I don’t concede that you’re definitely not the traitor.

    As I say, I understand your various points as they make a decent degree of sense, but let’s call a spade a spade. This is werewolf.
     
  7. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Rationale regarding myself? Just because I’ve been named in a message that was likely the alpha?
     
  8. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    This makes no sense though!

    If I was the traitor why would I encourage people to vote for a wolf? The role is to protect/help the wolves and even sacrifice yourself for them, not to get one of them lynched on Day 1.

    Bizarrely, your intransigence on this makes me more likely to think you're Good and misguided as digging in on this obviously wrong point would be bad play if you were on Team Evil!
     
  9. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    So if we disregard the messages from the person that didn't have the code from Day 1, what are we left with? Could someone post the six messages from Wolf/Seer in one post please?

    We need to form a view on which set are which, and if we can't what lynching will tell us the most.
     
  10. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Let’s see if anybody else is willing to stick their neck on the line and say you are categorically, definitely, 100% not the traitor at this point in the game.

    I don’t think I’ll be the only one. As I said, the logic on that point in isolation makes good sense, yes.
     
  11. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Sure, but you can answer the below question yourself without waiting for others.

    Why would a traitor suggest lynching a wolf at 5.44pm on the first day when the village didn't close until 8 so Harrow still had 2 hours 15 minutes to post?
     
  12. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    To review the voting patterns around it
     
  13. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I don't even know what this means but it suggests a fundamental misunderstanding of the Traitor role. You are there to help the wolves and even try to sacrifice yourself rather than a wolf getting lynched.

    You are not there to try and get rid of a wolf on Day 1 so you can glean something from a voting pattern when it's all pot luck anyway given both messages named people as Good!
     
  14. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Sorry @Steve Leo Beleck I feel that you saying I've been quiet is a bit iffy. I've put genuine questions out there. I think you missed the lack of activity on some others and have @ me twice on this day 3.

    Can you confirm why you linked me as a non contributor twice baring in mind you said you checked my posts? Surely you'd see I asked a load of genuine, if ***** questions.
     
  15. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    They wouldn’t unless the result was a foregone outcome. They could be a mistaken wolf though.
     
  16. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    I can confirm @wfcSinatra that the surgery is most definitely not a play. I’ve just had a metal plate inserted in my arm and it’s bloody painful!

    I am however awake again!
     
  17. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Agreed. I've already said twice that for the rest of the village I'm not confirmed Good therefore could be a wolf. There is no way I could be the traitor though.
     
  18. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Good to see you back Opti
     
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  19. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Opti is the cyborg!

    Get well soon mate.
     
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  20. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Now Opti is back and most of you seem to be around, my preference is to close this thread at 17:00.

    There's a little over 2.5 hours to go to vote.


    P.S. No more anonymous messages today.
     
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  21. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    One thing I was thinking about - did many people read this message and thought the number at the end was to do with potential attendance figures?

    I'd be interested in hearing a few responses as to who thought it was this. I had no idea what it was, but I didn't think it was that.
     
  22. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Thanks otter and everybody for the kind words. Trying to follow the game as best I can but still quite groggy. Won’t stop me voting though!
     
  23. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Good to hear Opti.
     
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  24. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    I did and started googling the number against Watford games, even looked back on 11v11, but couldn't find anything.
    Southgates birthday didn't even come to mind
     
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  25. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    I looked at the number and backdated it. September 12th 1970. Nothing of note.

    The other slightly iffy possibly wolfie one that was 12058 backdated was November 12th 1989. The number 1 at that time was.......

    When I See You Smile by Bad English.....
     
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  26. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Went down an absolute dead end
     
  27. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Down the werewolf rabbit hole. :D
     
  28. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    It's a classic !
     
  29. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Very wolfie singer too.
     
  30. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Werewolf rabbits. Jesus @Otter this is getting crazy!
     
  31. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I never posted about it but initially I thought it was attendance figures too. But couldn't work out what attendance figures they were so didn't go any further.
     
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  32. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Posing a lot of questions that can't be answered is a way of appearing active but not really helping Team Good. There was no attempt to try and deduce anything or shake the tree and see what comes out. Maybe that's just the way you play but it doesn't help Team Good in any way.
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Can anyone make a case for one set of messages being the Seer? Would be really useful...
     
  34. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Asking yesterday why one message said 'on this rainy day' wasn't a legitimate question? I'm not feeling that plus if I've been named good why not dial back on that theory now?
     
  35. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I didn't say you were Evil just pointed out that you and Tom had hardly said anything of note, which is true.

    Being named Good at the moment is somewhat irrelevant to me as I don't know which messages are the Seers.

    Also, no idea what you're getting at with the rainy day question? Seems totally random to me.
     
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