Watford Fc 4-1 Manchester United - 20/11/2021

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by Otter, Nov 15, 2021.

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What will the result be

Poll closed Nov 21, 2021.
  1. Deeney penalty

    31.7%
  2. Micah Hyde 50/50 draw

    26.8%
  3. None of the above

    41.5%
  1. reids

    reids First Team

    Not too sure - that 80% win rate was according to Statsbomb (who are the most reliable stats provider around), but WyScout has him at a 60% aerial win rate and Opta have him at a 56% win rate (!) so there must be some circumstances where one provider counts it as an aerial duel and others don't to get that big of a discrepancy!
     
  2. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Wow, ok, that's a huge disparity/very odd!
     
  3. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Purely to make juvenile and immature overgrown schoolboys like me laugh out loud
     
  4. Eric IS Bananman

    Eric IS Bananman Academy Graduate

    Ozan and Kucka are out with injuries.
     
  5. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Those red cards can be very painful.
     
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  6. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Dan Gosling's time to shine
     
  7. Chiswell

    Chiswell Academy Graduate

    I hope we give it a right good go this week with none of this sit back, wait and see stuff. HB1 said a couple of weeks back that we need to get the Vic back rocking like it can do but so often it seems like we are afraid to make things happen. My solution? If we win the toss, elect to kick towards the Rookery End in the first half for a change and really try to press at the start of the game. If we catch 'em early, get the crowd up, you never know!
     
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  8. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    In my experience nothing depresses the crowd more before kick-off than realising the teams are going to be playing ‘the wrong way round’ in the first half.
     
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  9. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Fixed for you.
     
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  10. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Please god don't let Ronaldo score. That "Suuuuuu" noise he makes is like scraping a chalkboard. :confused:
     
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  11. BusheyOrn

    BusheyOrn Reservist

    Sierralta out as well apparently. Injured again on international duty.
     
  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes - suffers another injury but made to play on .
     
  13. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Realistically Sierralta was the only centre back dominant enough in the air to challenge Ronaldo. If United had any sense they'd just sling crosses in now and wait for Cathcart to play musical statues.
     
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  14. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Or get him at back post against one of our full backs .
     
  15. Chiswell

    Chiswell Academy Graduate

    Haha! You cannot be serious? In any case it's not what the crowd thinks before KO but during the game and afterwards.
     
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Tough decision. Play very defensively and limp to a 0-2 defeat or go for it and lose a more exciting game 1-5.
     
  17. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I'm deadly serious. There's an audible groan around us in the Rookery when the teams change ends before kick-off. Of course it's wholly psychological, but it's the feeling that, if Watford don't make the most of attacking the Rookery in the first half, they will find it all the harder making something happen in the second. You would have to ask players, but I think the assumption is that they get more of a 'buzz' attacking and hopefully scoring at the home end and so are encouraged to push on for more. If I were a coach of an away team I would always find out which way the opponents prefer to play and disrupt it if possible.
     
  18. Chiswell

    Chiswell Academy Graduate

    Fair enough, I do know what you mean. In a way it sort of plays into my main point. The team and the crowd are almost 'waiting' for the second half. Of course, changing ends at the start is a long shot but it's an attempt to get everyone (team and crowd) on the front foot and have a proper go!
     
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  19. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Probably won’t matter tomorrow as we aren’t likely to be attacking much .
     
  20. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    How many Man Utd fans do we think our simpleton Keeper will cram into the home end? :)
     
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  21. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Should we not get our own house in order before we criticise atmosphere at other grounds?!

    Vicarage Road has been abysmal the last few years (either side of the pandemic).
     
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  22. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    We have another closet Arsenal fan in our midst.
     
  23. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    3 pages and not one hint of the phrase ‘free-hit’….

    Keep it up guys and gals. This is behaviour I can get behind.
     
  24. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    There is no need as we can call the previous game, this one and the next three as "free hits". Maybe Leicester is a possible result. Heck the way we defend we could call every game a "free hit" :D
     
  25. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    The team being absolute gash hasn't helped but I agree, the atmosphere is terrible. It definitely feels like the crowd would much rather get stuck into our own players than support them. That's fine, people pay their money and as long as they don't cross a line then they can whinge as much as they like. Personally I leave my whinging for here as I don't feel it's productive at the stadium but let's face it, the players have deserved criticism over the last couple of PL seasons.

    The Liverpool game was awful. The team were abysmal and from the first goal the atmosphere was toxic. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been like that in the 2015/16 season, even with the same scoreline.
     
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  26. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Ah yes, happier times with Deeney in his prime and Iggy putting John Stones on his @rse in the opening fixture. Despite what happened when our forward line forgot how to score after Xmas, that season is a personal highlight for me. Even though we had QSF as manager, he got more of a tune out of a lesser squad than we have at the moment.
     
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  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  28. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Got to say, that's pretty damning.
     
  29. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Me neither, but I'm delighted that it does.
     
  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

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  31. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Has the game been moved?
     
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  32. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Might be our best hope !!
     
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  33. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    It has. But, my post clearly stated a Manchester United fan criticising the atmosphere at Old Trafford because of tourists. And that real Mancs mostly looked down on the glory hunters from down south. So the Vic didn't really have much relevance in the context of conversation.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2021
  34. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

  35. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

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