Hoedt was £220k up front rising to £800k maximum per Leventhal. https://theathletic.com/4198792/2023/02/16/wesley-hoedt-defender-watford?source=user-shared-article
I checked transfermarkt which is usually quite reliable for such things, but fair enough if that's the case.
Nope - you're conflating two completely different things: Transfermarkt is usually quite reliable for recording the news of what fees have been paid for transfers which have occurred. However, transfermarkt is utterly atrocious for guessing/predicting the value of players who haven't been sold.
I think you're referring to this verse: 1 Timothy 6:10 (New International Version) For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. (TBF it is almost always misquoted.) EDIT: I do apologise. The wording you quote is as per the King James Version of the Bible from 1611, and so is not a mis-quote. However, it is the only version that renders the verse in this way. Almost all newer translations are variations on the wording I have quoted. (Source: https://www.biblehub.com/1_timothy/6-10.htm)
Hoedt has got good vision, and often goes for penetrative passes. Looks terrible when they don't come off, but he's done some good ones too.
Have you my copy of Clive James translation of the Divine Comedy by any chance? Can't find it anywhere, although I have found Fowler's Modern English Usage,which is pleasing!
I’m afraid not. I’ve not actually read the Divine Comedy, though I see that Clive James’ translation is well regarded.
It's wonderful! So full of life. James' wife is the only non Italian inducted into the Dante Society,or she was ten years ago.
This season we have won 14 and drawn 13 compared to 6 and 5 respectively last season in the same amount of games. Its been far less painful.
At least we played well the odd time last season, you can count on the fingers of one hand the amount of times we've played well this season, and dare I say games like Swansea eclipse any embarrassment we suffered in the Prem, it's one thing to get hammered by the best in the world, another thing by mediocre Championship clubs
I'm guessing (and this is what I reckon most people would agree on) those games are Luton, Stoke, Norwich x 2 and Sheffield United opening game? That sounds about right. You could probably include Birmingham at home but that wasn't good throughout, and other games are result-influenced, like if we'd held on to our lead at Burnley or Reading those may have been considered among the good performances.
Ha! Although I was watching I was too young to register the awfulness of the catastrophic relegation of 1972. Before this year the record was held by 2007/08 due to the horrible football and the hateful regime running the club, but at least that team put in some effort. This year has been relentlessly directionless with no feeling of connection to the players or club. As well as having to suffer really quite dull football for the most part, it feels like the spirit of the fans has been completely crushed over the last 18 months.
Birmingham was a decent first half performance, but a shaky second half, I wouldn't even say Sheffield United at home was particularly good (we didn't create much, even if we never really looked in too much trouble at the back), even if it looks better now
I agree, a big difference is we had hope this season that with a lot of what we considered good enough players for the championship we would be there or thereabouts all season. Unfortunately the sum of our parts is way less than the parts added up individually, not helped by the usual three manager syndrome which has confused the players and made them feel less connected with the club. Meanwhile us the fans turn up not knowing what we are going to see and what the future holds! The Luton game was soo different to everything else this season we can only hope the players put on a performance similar on April Fools Day!
I don't like football anymore. Watching us vs QPR and Wigan and how bad we performed is just the icing on the cake. In those two games, the amount of players who just sit down pretending to be injured is scandalous and it needs sorting. Time wasting is a complete farce and not enough gets done about it. The ref on Saturday booked a player fairly early on for time wasting but let a lot more go. That odious little sh1t Mclean scores and goads the home fans in celebration but nothing is done. A player takes his shirt off in front of his own fans in celebration and gets booked! It's ludicrous The respect for the officials needs resolving. Yes they get things wrong but I've actually heard in defence of Mitrovic this morning that if the ref got decisions correct this wouldn't have happened. It's been said lots of times but we need to follow rugby in the way officials are talked to. Several times every game you get the ref surrounded by players screaming at him because they felt he got a decision wrong, Refs get decisions wrong in rugby but you never see this kind of reaction because they will be yellow carded if they do. It's been a horrible season and it's fair to say this summer is probably the most important in the clubs history but it's not just Watford that is making me lose my love of the game As for the game itself on Saturday, meh, who honestly cares anymore. I'm going to the scum game but will be my last away game of the season and will go to the home games as I meet up with some mates for a chat and a couple of beers I will renew next season but for the first time ever in the 44 years of going I am questioning that decision. I used to hate it when the end of season arrived and I had no football to go to for three months. It's pretty much the opposite now which makes me very sad
Pretty much encapsulates my sentiments KGT. I've just had a more vituperative rant to a team mate at Hazelwood,a Spurs st holder. I can remember my first boss at a club citing rugby and how to treat the officials and that was 1986! So sad. I'll always love Watford but I beseech Elton or a body of like-minded people to come to our rescue, although that of course doesn't solve the underlying problem of football itself.
I laughed at the McLean thing. The 1881 herberts were giving him dogs abuse as he took a corner in front of them about a minute before and fate gave him a goal almost straight away. Though I would have had more respect for him if he'd celebrated in front of them than the other side of the Rookery.
I don't blame him as gets abuse wherever he goes, possibly justified it's just doing that which goads fans is not a yellow but taking your shirt off in celebration is. Just always thought it's bizarre
He said he'd be more hands on when his final tour is finished, but sadly a) he'll be really old by then, and b) even if he were rich enough to be a gamechanger (which he isn't these days), there's such a job to clean up the mess at this club
Elton gets along with the club hierarchy. He won’t be buying the club from them, I’m certain of it. I think too many people have got their hopes up about what he said last summer.
I always thought it was essentially artistic licence from a showman high on positive vibes from the crowd. Bit surprised so many took it to heart but understandable in some senses given his links to our past and Pozzo's falling reputation. And while I don't doubt he could open some doors to American investors, Elton's potential involvement isn't going to make them suddenly blind to the fact our off-field financial affairs look like a bomb site or make Gino lower the asking price. There must be far more simple takeover propositions out there than getting involved with us, paying a premium and having to untangle god knows what web of loans and debts, simply to have some sort of remote link to an aging music star.
The 1881 have become so cringeworthy (potentially they always were but I noticed less). Singing the Adams family song every week and the song about Gaspar not being able to defend or attack.
The game was actually quite similar to the previous time we played this fixture. Wigan, who were having virtually the same kind of season as they’re having now, were 1-0 down and equalised on the stroke of half time through an assist by McClean (this is his 2nd spell at Wigan) before Deeney scored his 2nd in the 82nd minute, and like Saturday it was a pretty average performance. As the game neared injury time I was expecting a repeat, but sadly even current Deeney Davis ain’t. It reminded me of how much we miss prime Deeney, Ighalo and Vydra and why we had such a good record that season against the weaker teams - having players that were needed to break down struggling sides like Saturday’s opponents.
He may of been goading the WFC fans, but he did his celebration right in front of the Wigan media people. I think that is why he ran to where he did, not to avoid the 1881.
On one hand I respect them because without them The Vic would be like a graveyard, but on the other they moan that no one else joins in with the chants but why would they when all the chants are stupid and embarrassing?
