Watford Fc 1-1 Newcastle United - 25/09/2021

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by reids, Sep 19, 2021.

  1. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    Exactly, and it doesn't really mean too much where you get your points from, just as long as we get them. I just found it interesting to see we're actually 5 points down on our relegation season in corresponding fixtures, plus we also beat Liverpool and United, which is unlikely to be replicated this season.

    It means we need a big swing in our favour against the other teams, but we can easily claw back those points in the home games to Brighton, Burnley, Southampton & Palace, where we only picked up 1 point last time. If we win all those games it would give us an extra 11 points against the relegation season, which would make up for dropping points against those we've lost to already this season plus the expected defeats to United and Liverpool. That would put us on target to match our relegation season total of 34 points. So an extra win on top of that should see us ok.

    I'll transpose Bournemouth and Sheff Utd for Leeds and Brentford. We got a total of 6 points from those 4 games in the relegation season, so if we improve on that against Leeds and Brentford that might be enough, if all other results are equal. Hopefully we'll get a few unexpected wins along the way, like beating someone like Leicester or Everton.
     
  2. BusheyOrn

    BusheyOrn Reservist

    Man City win incoming!
     
  3. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Thing is that all of this is irrelevant, particularly as two seasons have passed since then. We play for the points in front of us, there's barely any point in worrying about 'identical' fixtures from history, our squad is not the toxic one from two years ago, plus within the first 5 games we have secured a home victory and an away victory, in 2019 we took until November to get our first away win, and the Sunday before Christmas before our first home win, with what was our 4th man in charge in the season if you include the couple of games with a caretaker.
     
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  4. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I mean it probably won't matter when they **** 6 past us again, but I do think we have a lot to worry them with, they usually play with little regard for the opposition, so hopefully Sarr, Dennis and King can hurt them with their pace!
     
  5. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    6-6 it is then. Our first point off them for a very long time.
     
  6. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Can you do the previews every week @reids ? Most insightful. Don't care much for Jackson Pollock but nice of you to throw in his latest work. ;)
     
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  7. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Our third consecutive league match against a team without a win so far this season...and if Leeds don’t win this weekend, we will extend this sequence to four...
     
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  8. YellowRedBlack

    YellowRedBlack Academy Graduate

    How many points is a win worth this week... 6 or 9? Hope we get all 9.
     
  9. Dr. Roland

    Dr. Roland Academy Graduate

    Good form Reids! Great write up.

    Why do I get the unfounded yet annoying, sneaking doubt that it’s more detailed than the players get from Xisco?
     
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  10. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Hopefully our defence will be more Rothko (solid and bold) than Pollock (random, chaotic and all over the place) against the whining entitled delusional geordies
     
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Mentioned him 20 or 30 posts back. And spelt his name correctly :p
     
  12. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Think it's fairly obvious that if we win this game, we'll stay up comfortably. If we lose, we're down.
     
  13. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    It’s a 31 pointer, as we’ll be virtually safe on 9 points, and safety is 40 points.
     
  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    No team has ever been relegated from the PL with 9 points. FACT.
     
  15. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I like your thinking

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  16. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    What if we draw?
     
  17. zztop

    zztop Eurovision Winner 2015

    Totally agree. All this comparison stuff is a total waste of time, particularly with 2 years ago, as we have a completely different squad and coach that can only get better as they become more familiar, and the other teams have also changed.

    The fact is we can beat any team in this division, obviously with a win less likely against the better teams, but possible all the same.

    Every result will depend on how we and our opponents perform on the day, the referees/VAR decisions, injuries, with a hefty slice down to nothing more than fine margins and luck.

    So, I predict we win 2-0 with King scoring in after 32 mins and 23 secs with a near post header, and Dennis scoring on 48 mins 07 secs with a back heel. ;)
     
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  18. Dr. Roland

    Dr. Roland Academy Graduate

    We’re certainly down if we draw.
     
  19. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Then we're down. Unless one of the following events occurred, in which case it's still in the balance.

    -denied a clear penalty in the last minute
    -played 60 minutes with 10 men
     
  20. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'm hearing the FA have taken that option off the table. It's a no holds barred fight to the death.
     
  21. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Can you put a points value on that? 12? 15?


    Also, any idea how much effort our players will need to give in order to triumph?
     
  22. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Are you suggesting some of them might give less than 100%?
     
  23. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    Joe Willock is in a protective boot.

    Wilson injured.

    Anything that gets Joelinton on the pitch is a bonus.
     
  24. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Watford 6-0 Newcastle

    Crisis meeting called at Bedwetter HQ.
     
  25. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    People love comparisons. At the weekend we had: "Arsenal haven't lost at Burnley since 1973". How meaningless is that? Hundreds of players must have been in those two teams during that period and how many times have they even played each other?

    You're also right about Watford being able to beat anyone on the day, however unlikely it seems. I was baffled by Farke's comment that Norwich expected or budgeted to be on zero points after four games and only fell below their expectation against us. That approach automatically gives his players an excuse for losing to the 'big' teams and piles pressure on them to win against their direct rivals.
     
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  26. MIlton Dammers

    MIlton Dammers Reservist

    That should suit us if Kucka plays.
     
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  27. It was a stroke of genius by Mike Ashley to persuade the Toon Army that Joe Linton, a gas fitter from South Shields, was a gifted Brazilian striker.
     
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  28. Kiko and Pedro available. Bachmann doubtful.
     
  29. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Seeing as we're on 6 points, and the magical mystical mark for survival is 40 points, a win on Saturday is worth roughly 34 points.
     
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  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Proven with maths!
     
  31. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I've already booked a meeting at Wework
     
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  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Is Joelington bad? I though he was all good when he came in.
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

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  34. Dr. Roland

    Dr. Roland Academy Graduate

    There is a lot of discussion about Watford’s hunk quota on this forum, yet imo not enough discussion of how our team would shape up against the other teams in a death match.

    I think our midfield introductions of Sissoko, Kucka and Tufan would fair well.

    I feel like WTE would have the physical attributes to cause a lot of damage but we’d pay the price in mistaken “friendly fire” accidents.

    Gosling would have to be used like that goat in Jurassic Park.
     
  35. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    As much as I love the Kiko-Sarr partnership and it looks like it could be back on Saturday, we need to wrap Kiko in cotton wool atm. Most if not all of our best attacks come from that side. Don't know if it's actually legal to gaffer tape cotton wool
    to his legs for 90mins however. o_O
     
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