Watford Fc 1-0 Millwall - 24/04/2021 - Promoted To The Pl

Discussion in 'Match Day' started by tonycotonstache, Apr 20, 2021.

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Poll closed Apr 25, 2021.
  1. Narrow home win

    40 vote(s)
    33.6%
  2. Spiffing home win

    65 vote(s)
    54.6%
  3. Dodgy draw

    9 vote(s)
    7.6%
  4. Silly sloppy away loss

    5 vote(s)
    4.2%
  1. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    The ugly side of promotion. Bunch of bell-ends.

    Surely Aidy deserves to be among the alumni?
     
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  2. rochdale away

    rochdale away Reservist

    I don’t think it’s ‘just’ ok, it should be mandatory for any proper supporter.

    So may I add Norwich,Chelsea ,Manchester United and city. Of course Liverpool and Everton. Bizarrely I’ve got a long term dislike of gillingham
     
  3. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Correct, but I think you've been away for a while and are missing a crucial point. Many of our fans no longer even dislike Luton.

    That's where the forum is these days.
     
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  4. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    could be in there son
     
  5. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Disappointing news. But not all that surprising when most of the time we're being told we can't dislike clubs anymore. Hopefully, this flower powery behaviour will disappear when we're losing every week next season.
     
  6. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I actually agree with a lot of this, particularly your characterisation of Watford FC and their standing in the wider football world. But, while we need to always be vigilant, I do think you’re overly suspicious of the club’s owners. In general they have shown great empathy with the history and traditions of the club and we could do a lot worse.
     
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  7. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    I hate Muff with venom . Not that bothered by Luton even though I am from that era. They re just irrelevant to me.

    I hate Utd and Liverpool for their arrogant armchair fans.

    I hate Newcastle and Spam for their deluded “ We’re a massive club” fans.

    I hate Real Madrid and Juve as they are the most corrupt clubs in European football.

    I also hate PSG because they spend loads of money and have only ever won 1 European trophy and that was the Mickey Mouse Cup Winners Club. Joke of a club.

    I don’t like Bayern either . They represent the worst side of German culture whereas BVB, who I love , represent the best .
     
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  8. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Congrats everyone, what a wonderful day. Well done to everyone at the pond, was great fun. Apart from the can & bottle throwers (Just why!?)

    We are Premier League!
     
  9. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Ah give it a rest, celebrations cause a mess.

    It's clean now, Watford Council is happy so you shouldn't really care much.

    https://twitter.com/WatfordCouncil/status/1386237717470752768
     
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  10. HornetMan

    HornetMan Academy Graduate

    A perfect day all round yesterday. Bournemouth lost against a team who played the majority of the 2nd half with ten men and we beat one of the countries most hated clubs to win promotion back to the "best league in the world" at the first time of asking.

    The players will of course get the credit (which they 100% deserve. What a group they are btw) but the real joy has been Xisco Munoz. I will happily admit I was among the many who doubted his appointment, with his lack of experience being a concern, but I'm so glad to have been proven wrong. Born in 1998, I didn't see the GT eras, so he's probably the most likeable manager we've had in my lifetime. Zola and Javi run him close but there's just something about Xisco. The way he thanked the groundsmen and the other staff around the club, the emotion he showed when the full-time whistle went. He knew what it meant to us and we can see what it meant to him. I really hope he gets the chance in the Premier League.

    The game wasn't the greatest in all honesty. Millwall could, and probably should, have equalised but who the hell cares. It got us over the line and we did exactly what was required. It's such a shame we couldn't be in the ground, the celebrations would have been something else. I didn't end up in town (or at the pond) but I've seen photos and videos of those who did- it looked a right laugh.

    I don't really care about the possibility of winning the league. In 2015 it was different because we had it in our own hands and messed it up. This time, there is no pressure. We're not expected to win it, in 2015 we were. Now the next two weeks we can relax and see what happens elsewhere and for once, not have to worry about anything to do with football.

    The vaccine is doing its job, restrictions are gradually being eased and (hopefully) we will have the summer we all deserve after a sh**show of a year or so. Come August it'll be amazing if we're back at The Vic cheering the boys on as a Premier League team once again. Back where we belong.

    YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU ORNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
     
  11. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

  12. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Sorry to keep on about this but one can enjoy oneself and responsibly. That is what it boils down to responsibility. For example think about all the carelessly discarded cigarette butts and chewing gum that costs councils a fortune to clean up when receptacles are provided. I have seen people drop litter when a bin is just a few yards away. It is sheer laziness and expecting someone else to clean up after you. My parents from an early age told me to keep my litter with me if I could not find a bin and dispose of it correctly out of respect to others.

    If this had been the lot up the road doing this no doubt we would be laying into them as the proverbial antisocial feckless winkers we sometimes think they are. The culture at the moment in this country is all about rights over responsibilities and not taking a few minutes to be considerate to others.

    It's very kind of Roy Moore to offer to pay for the clean up but why should he. The litter louts that did this should have been fined. The money that could have potentially left the 1881's coffers could be better spent elsewhere than on the actions of a small but still significant number of halfwits.
     
  13. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Somehow I managed to blank Aidy. Freudian slip I suppose.....:p
     
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  14. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Just do what I did Smudge and tell them where they could stick their bottle I had just retrieved from the pond after it had been thrown in whilst helping to clean it.
     
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  15. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    I don't know if either of you were there but I was, 95% of people there were respectful and just having good honest fun. Sure, there was a crowd of 5% who's balls haven't dropped yet or couldn't handle their alcohol levels and they are the ones who took it too far or didn't care about the mess but weren't we all 16 once finally old enough to celebrate our first real Watford moment without Mum or Dad, littering isn't the worst thing they could've done.

    I met about 20 lovely, responsible fans with whom I shared delight, had great convos, laughed at the brave idiots diving in the pond, and given the year we've just it was brilliant to sing some songs amongst fellow Watford fans.

    It's been cleaned up within 12 hours of the event, Watford Council has no issues so why are two men on the Internet so angry?
     
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  16. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I did say Sinatra that there were a minority of as I would call them yobbos who give the rest of us a bad name. You say I am angry but I am being perfectly reasonable about it. Why do people feel the need to litter in the first place ? It is sheer laziness and respect for others and the environment around them. Someone else can clear up. If we all had this attitude the world would be a sorry place. I was sixteen once as well but always have acted responsibly. No doubt with the accusation stop being a goody two shoes. The culture as compared to Japan and other nations is pretty poor and has been in evidence for the last year. It is mindless and a symptom of antisocial behaviour from littering in nature reserves to fly tipping.
     
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  17. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    I've done that before not with fellow fans but after an idiot decided to pull a knife on me after I pointed out his bargain bucket could have been placed in a bin not more than three metres away and quite politely it's simply not worth the risk. Society is infested with antisocial idiots.
     
  18. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    You disrespected him, pussy.
     
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  19. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Angry? No. Just think it's a shame. Not going to pretend for a second that I wouldn't have done the same thing several years ago.
     
  20. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I don't think @Smudger or @folkestone orn are reacting too much.


    Go and look on the Wobby comments for some extreme, foaming rage that people, many of whom are under 30 and very low risk, plus have given up over a year of their lives for other people, and are at the back of the queue for vaccines, had a bit of joy in their lives.
     
  21. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    That's fair enough then, definitely a shame that some idiots threw cans and have no sense of social responsibility for sure, with you all the way there.
     
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  22. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    You're right that the Japanese culture is much more respectful to each other but they are f###ed up in so many other ways that we're not.
    Plus they're about to pollute the seas with millions of tons of highly polluted nuclear waste. I'd rather have a few fag packets in the pond
     
  23. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I agree with this but when I was young I was a bigger **** than I am now.
    At my youngest son's football this morning I walked along the hedge near the touchline of the pitch picking up some discarded rubbish even tho it was an away match.
    Most of us get wiser and more sensible with age
     
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  24. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Why do either?
     
  25. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    ...............and the latest incoming fake news story about Deeney. We have just been promoted. Respectfully please leave it alone at least for this weekend.
     
  26. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    If the owner of the house in Northwood whose promotion party I found myself at is on this site, thank you for your generous hospitality and apologies about the coffee table - it looked stronger than that. I'm sure a decent carpenter will be able to get it looking as good as new
     
  27. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Blimey have you ever seen the countryside after a few people have gathered there. Glastonbury for example is ankle deep in rubbish. The streets after any central London event, are covered in rubbish. The rubbish chucked on the floor after a home game, must be a tonne or so

    it could have been a lot worse. They could have put their rubbish in plastic bags and hung them on the branches of nearby trees.

    Personally, having walked past a fridge dumped in Merry Hill at the entrance to Woodland Trust land yesterday evening, littering our land seems endemic among Hertfordshire residents and those in the rest of the UK.
     
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  28. El distraído

    El distraído Johnny Foreigner

    Absolute scum.

    They should be made to walk through Bournemouth town centre with their Watford shirts on. That would bring them down to size.

    Seriously though, the knuckle draggers who littered should be thoroughly ashamed.
     
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  29. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    I also had felt huge relief and satisfaction at a difficult job completed rather than total euphoria, particularly, the consequences of us not going up at the first attempt were too dire to consider.
    We are mortgaged to the hilt, have a crippling wage bill stymieing recruitment with underperforming, overvalued, and overpaid players on ridiculously long contracts, so impossible to move on, real financial millstones, so step forward, Deeney, Gary, and Success.
    Since project restart, a combination of poor player attitude (on and off the pitch) culminating in the sacking of Nigel Pearson with 2 games to go condemned the club to a very uncertain financial future.
    The appointment of Ivic, successful in the uncalibrated backwaters of the Isreali Leagues, unproven in the frenetic melting point of the EFL Championship was a gamble. Ivic was dealt a mixed hand of stroppy, experienced players, wanting out, some young unproven talent, and a board desperate to cut costs. A difficult job but one he failed to fully adapt to. His total inflexibility coupled with his over-cautious tactics and cold demeanour, first alienated the players, then fans, and finally the board over the first half of the season culminating in his sacking after an abysmal performance at Huddersfield Town and his cold-shouldering of the club captain, who carried significant influence with those who run the club.
    The sacking was the correct decision and the next appointment, the affable but highly inexperienced coach (this time conqueror of the European League backwater of Georgia). This was a big gamble.
    It could so easily have gone so very wrong, which it almost did. After a promising start, just 1 defeat at Swansea, with some unconvincing performances, particularly in front of goal, leading to some nervous endings to matches, followed by a spell of 3 winless games, with little attacking threat, culminating in an abject 0-0 draw at struggling Coventry. It seemed Watford were doomed to battle for a spot in the play-off lottery.
    Then good fortune smiled on Watford. William Toost-Ekong, who had only been at the club a few months, showed real leadership as befits a captain of their national team (Nigeria) decided to call a meeting of the senior players. He knew something wasn’t right and decided to do something about it. This is probably the point, in the latter half of the season, that turned things around for us and set us on course for promotion.
    Deeney was injured against Coventry and his partnership with the hapless, misfiring, mistiming Gray, in an easily bluntedt 4-4-2 Deeneyball formation was jettisoned. At the same time, the returning Will Hughes, who had been shoehorned into a wide-midfield position in the Deeneyball formation, was moved to a deep central midfield position, in a fluid 4-3-3 formation, alongside Cleverley and Chalobah, with Sema, Pedro, and Sara forming a interchangeable 3 up front which finally fulfilled Watfords attacking potential.
    That first game in this revised formation resulted in the 6-0 home demolition of Bristol City which saw the Hornets go on an amazing run of 13 wins, 1 draw and 1 defeat in 16 games. An incredible run ending in promotion. There were some bumps along the way, including an abysmal performance against their local rivals Luton, but some incredible highs too including the Bristol performance and a superb away win at champions-elect Norwich, the perfect response to the Luton debacle.
    The coach Munoz has to take some of the credit for the upturn, the players who rolled up their sleeves and got stuck in, also deserve praise. How much of this was down to inspired decision making and how much was down to sheer good fortune, we will probably never know.
    I sincerely hope that this success doesn’t go to the heads of the people who run the club. We really have dodged a bullet considering the depressed financial climate for football post-pandemic and post-Brexit. I hope they finally wake up and address the obvious failings and weaknesses in the squad and act prudently with the finances. How about recruiting some promising, young, hungry lower division talent rather than relying on random Udinese cast-offs and cheaper but temperamental agent offloads.
    It’s never boring following Watford. UP THE HORNETS-ah !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  30. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    Perhaps the Mayor of Watford could use it as a photo opportunity by having his picture taken while drinking a pint of this clear naturally sparkling Watford Evian.
     
  31. reg_varney

    reg_varney Squad Player

    The cat is now well and truly out of the bag for 3pm streaming. Covid isn't going away anytime soon and after some summer relaxation there could well be spells of autumn/winter restrictions limiting numbers at sporting events. Like Covid, live 3pm streaming is here to stay.
     
  32. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist


    We're only celebrating promotion cos Deeney got injured and had less influence on the dressing room. If u think that's fake news, you ain't Watford
     
  33. Simmos

    Simmos First Year Pro

    Oh dear! As I mentioned before, unless you are a Mr Pozzo, the chairman, a member of staff, one of the players or a stalker of Deeney you only have as much information about him and his influence at the club as the rest of us. Just because you repeat the same things over and over doesn't make it true. You have convinced yourself you are correct but it doesn't mean it is.

    For the record, just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I don't support Watford. You have created a narrative regarding Deeney which then fits your conspiracy. I am possibly the only person on this site that thinks this way which is fine. However until you can provide third party proof such as another player saying Deeney was a bad influence at the club I choose not to agree with your false and potentially libelous allegations.

    FFS we were promoted and you should be delighted like the rest of us rather than trying to point blame at certain people at the club for failings which actually don't exist.
     
  34. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    The impact of Deeney is obvious. It's not a conspiracy as there is only one person involved. I'm not creating a narrative, I'm referring to things that are in plain sight. For example Troy said on Saturday Cleverley always gives him 8 out of 10. Can you explain that comment? Tom Cleverley just captained us to promotion, he won the league with Machester United, represented England at the European championships and is a former Watford player of the season. Unlike Troy, Clevs was instrumental in us getting promoted this season yet according to Troy, Clevs is playing for him. It's insane. If you dont see it you are blind. I say you're not Watford cos u don't care enough about the club to be bothered by Troy's antics. U r Deeney Watford, Duxbury Watford, not real Watford.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2021
  35. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Well that was horrible to watch but felt so good getting it over the line.

    Sarr is just incredible in this division.

    Also thought Gosling, Hughes and Masina were very good - Bachmann too.

    Cleverley and WTE were pretty poor I felt but who cares!
     
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