Turning Sport Green

Discussion in 'General Football & Other Sport' started by Harefield Yellow, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. Harefield Yellow

    Harefield Yellow First Year Pro

    What a load of utter nonsense !

    Is there any chance of us being able to simply go and enjoy a match without having a load of box-ticking horsesh1t rammed down our throats ?
     
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  2. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Yes, I for one can’t wait for the day I get to sail by boat up to Vicarage road for games, it will be so much more convenient.
     
  3. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Wokeford.
     
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Are we playing in green or something?

    Not going to use floodlights or waste water watering the pitch when its been raining?
     
  5. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    You get arrested and thrown in jail for putting the wrong thing in your green bin these days.
     
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  6. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Jail? Since when?
     
  7. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    I didn’t think Northerners had bins?
     
  8. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Where do you think they get their dinner tea from?
     
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  9. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Of course they do.

    They call them "towns" up there.
     
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  10. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Honestly, these days you get arrested and thrown in jail.
     
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  11. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Since when?
     
  12. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    You'll be thrown?
     
  13. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    In jail. These days.
     
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  14. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    You are the bin cat lady and I claim my £5 for outing you.
     
  15. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Just for putting the wrong thing in your green bin?
     
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  16. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    No. You’ve worn me down. The council will refuse to take your bin though.
     
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  17. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    It’s a very thin line, to be fair.
     
  18. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    One green football weekend versus Ineos buying Manchester United. Hmmm, seems an uneven struggle this one.

    Premier League clubs taking 20-minute flights to matches; tens of thousands of car journeys per Premier League fixture; a European competition that is getting bigger, meaning more travel, more consumption, consumption, consumption. The light and heat that goes into keeping a 110 yard x 100 yard patch of grass pristine, but not only the pitch at the stadium, multiple pitches at the training centres.

    A lot of angst about the climate change message stems from our deep, partly unacknowledged unease that things are changing and may well impinge on the way we all live, and want to live. We tell ourselves comfortable lies about how it's always been hot or always rained heavily. Like the proverbial frog in the pan of water being brought to the boil, we're not noticing what's going on around us.

    The uncomfortable truth is that the less we do now, the more our children will have to do in the future but it does feel pretty irritating to be told to turn the thermostat down a degree, go vegetarian a few days a week or take shorter showers (as the blurb on the green football weekend website suggests) when professional football is literally a 24-7 gas guzzler that guzzles its gas in pursuit of more and more money. To be fair, all those things listed on the website are things I'd do anyway – the thermostat has turned down as the bills have gone up, eating less meat is far, far better for long term health prospects, etc.

    But dear me, the fight is being fought the wrong way round. While it's true that if the masses all make relatively small changes the effect will be significant (the theory of marginal gains), the problem is that if the elite (in any sphere) just continues with its excess, its glut of consumption, its luxury, the messaging is undermined instantly.

    Have a veggie burger at half-time, while Liverpool fly to Manchester in a rocket. There, that'll do it.
     
  19. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Great post.
     
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  20. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    It's awful that, my friend had that electric ham face
     
  21. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Not all of us, though. It's absolutely plain to many what's going on and the sense of helplessness when the rest of the world just buries their head is awful.

    The winter we are currently experiencing over here has been so mild it's practically unnoticeable. It has been a trend over the last few years and it's pretty obvious as to why, but there's no discussion of it at all. Meanwhile, other places get rocked by unusually strong or numerous storms, and no one bats an eyes.

    We're like the Egyptians as depicted in the Bible, ignoring the 10 warnings sent their way. Except that, unlike the story in the Bible, science is real and this is really happening.
     
  22. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    No, not all of us, of course, but generally and politically the response is a metaphorical shrug of the shoulders. On an individual level it feels futile to try to spread the message because often the response is to be dismissed as a sandal-wearing, mung bean eating green-freak. Or people say things like: "Yet you have a television and boil the kettle and drive a car. Interesting." Seeing the changing climate issue being reduced to a pawn in the culture war is beyond depressing.

    The big wake-up for me was speaking to some climate scientists a couple of years ago who pointed out that we're not very far away from the point where wet bulb temperatures in southern and central Europe in the height of summer will make physical activity almost impossible. One climate scientist put it to me that the winter World Cup will become the norm in Europe because June and July will just be too hot, even at nights, to play matches at any intensity without endangering the players.

    But yes, the sense of futility, helplessness in the face of collective political inaction is gloomy.
     
  23. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    What about the huge snowstorm in December in which more than 100 people died ?
     
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  24. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    You tell me. What about it?
     
  25. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    That'll make it really difficult to see the ball.

    I'm sure that joke has been made already but I don't care.
     
  26. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Doesn’t sound very mild to me.
     
  27. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Oh dear.
     
  28. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    OK, you crack on.
     
  29. EnjoytheGame

    EnjoytheGame Reservist

    The extremes are getting more extreme. That's the issue. The biggest thing that set the entire debate back was calling it 'global warming' for years. Yes, average temperatures are rising but the issue isn't just that average temperatures are rising, it's that the extremes – both temperatures and weather events – are getting more extreme.

    Unfortunately, every time it snows or it's cold people say: "Ah, global warming you say."

    As a species we're pretty bad at evaluating evidence. We take anecdote over trend because it's easier and it makes more sense.
     
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  30. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Yep. Spot on.
     
  31. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Yes. And the snowstorm is a good illustration, I agree.
     
  32. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Arakel’s arrogance won’t allow him to backtrack after saying something daft I’m afraid. Best not to bother. I tried for years without reward.
     
  33. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    On the subject of ‘Green Football’, I’m loving the idea of Duncan Disorderly being manager at Forest Green. The best appointment since Di Canio got the Swindon job. One can hardly imagine how it will end…
     
  34. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    It's beneficial to clubs to become more aware of their environment. They can save money on energy, water supply, where their food for match days is sourced, where their clothing is manufactured. Many have to be concerned with the loss of grounds being near the coastline.

    However as we have seen in the society we live in corporate entities such as football clubs now are pay lip service to the facts merely trumpeting they are green in the hope of appearing virtuous, caring and attracting the green pound. The reality is of course greatly different. Most noticeably in the way old stadiums are simply torn down and not repurposed and in the forms of travel often aviation that clubs use rather than rail for instance. Until we see those sorts of actions implemented as with those corporations trying to con us as usual it's a lot of hot air.

    Some clubs are on their way although it again highlights the lack of care and disregard for the environment that now exists thanks to the Tories where developers who are often party donors can ride roughshod over local objections and destroy green belts wherever they are. The first site to replace Pittodrie was going to be on green belt land and have a stadium that glowed in the dark. Marvellous for wildlife and astronomers. The next was to be on farmland. So even less food producing capacity and using a long road to get to on the outskirts of the city. So more pollution and traffic. No walking or public transport possible. Now they have come up with this.

    Aberdeen FC to build Europe's first net zero stadium - Build in Digital
     

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