Train Chat

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by miked2006, Sep 22, 2022.

  1. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Thought I'd create a thread to discuss all things trains.

    And start out by mentioning an update for the potential Croxley Rail link. I saw that the council is running another consultancy exercise, to find ways to revive the link https://www.theplanner.co.uk/news/team-appointed-to-explore-reopening-watford-to-croxley-link with results available in early 2023.

    I imagine the council have realised that with the latest TFL funding restrictions, and the fact that Watford cannot vote in mayoral elections, means that they'll be getting no TFL money for some time (if ever) and will essentially need to fund nearly everything themselves. And the consultants will be hard at work, trying to avoid building the expensive viaduct.
     
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  2. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Good idea for a thread, will observe with interest.
     
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  3. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    I hope this can be ressurected. The potential benefits to Watford increasing footfall to the city and making it easier to use as an alternate travel hub rather than going into central London to pick up overground services are vast.

    It was nixed by Sadiq Khant, despite the huge amount already spent on it and grants secured.

    IIRC he didn't see the financial or logistical benefits and wrongly assumed it would only offer an advantage to people living outside his voting area. I'm not sure that the extra government grants provided to build it were ever paid back either? His track record of financial management of TFL has been somewhat lacking and this was before the issues caused by the pandemic. I see another bailout has just been neogtiated.

    To be honest I won't hold my breath as I think we have more important issues to spend capital on at the moment.
     
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  4. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    One of the major issues with the Croxley rail link is that Watford tube station will become redundant and disused. This means the Cassiobury estate houses lose value as they then don't have a (very) local tube station anymore.

    Never
    Going
    To
    Happen
     
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  5. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    I think there was a proposal to keep it as a branch operating a limited service and also utilise as a siding to keep them happy? But thre was a lot of negative opinions from those near to Watford Met which let's face it is really in the middle of nowhere. Not having the met line terminate in the Town is silly.
     
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  6. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    Not been on a train for a long time. I used to regularly do Warrington to Euston and that was a horrible grind. Even upgrading to a 1st class ticket on a sunday evening was no guarantee I could ever get into my coach let alone occupy my seat which invariably was covered in filth and spilt Irn Bru as it started it's journey in Scotchland.

    I eventually gave up as it became cheaper and more comfortable to drive and given the faff getting back out from Euston was actually quicker all in.

    Whatever that say about the merits of HS2 there were serious capaticty issues on that line.
     
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  7. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I'd like to think the number of people and businesses who would benefit from it, will outweigh the political clout of an additional 5 minute walk for those on the Cassiobury estate.

    You'd end up vastly extending the number of people who would visit the town from Pinner - Amersham (and maybe further out), which would be a massive boost to businesses (including our club).

    You'd also greatly increase access to the hospital/ health campus, and reduce ringroad/ hospital traffic/parking, which will meet a whole load of govt metrics/ priorities. I'd say it's inevitable, as long as funding doesn't rely on TFL.
     
  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The 17:17 to London Euston.
    Phwaorrrr ;)
     
  9. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Rail strike announced for 8th October (Blackpool away).
     
  10. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I'm a huge fan of HS2, but skimping around the edges (and trying to appease northern Tory MPs) is going to hugely limit its use.

    Without creating high speed rail all the way to Scotland, you're not going to significantly reduce flights. And building over, rather than under, Manchester, is probably going to massively stunt their cities future growth.
     
  11. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I once found myself alone in the waiting room at Warrington Bank Quay station with a transvestite with a prosthetic hand.
     
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  12. We could do with a direct train from Watford to Yorkshire!

    Currently it's train in to St Pancras, short hop to Euston and back up again or out to Birmingham and in to Watford but those Brum to Watford trains never seem to come up on national rail enquiries.

    Both methods are still 2 and a half to 3 hours with waits for connecting trains.

    Direct train would be under 2 hours! Sort it out Watford!

    Annoyingly there is a direct train to them filthy lot up the road.
     
  13. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    That was you?
     
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    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

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    lendal Reservist

  16. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

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    Diamond First Team

  18. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    How did you find out?
     
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  19. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    It created a static charge after being vigorously rubbed against Lloyd’s trousers.
     
  20. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    At least it was static, I suppose.
     
  21. So after the disaster that was the EMR delays both ways on the way to last Saturday's game, I now see there are planned strikes this weekend so more rubbish having to find alternative routes and ways to get to the game.

    State of the railway companies in this country man.
     
  22. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    You could use the Snorbens Flyer to start your journey.
     
  23. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    The station platforms have signs that say “Warrington Bank Quay”
     
  24. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    I thought this would be about Ray.
     
  25. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

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  26. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    I see. So the transvestite used his prosthetic hand to point them out?
     
  27. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    We will always have Warrington .
     
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