Tom Cleverley - Head Coach

Ok so just to be clear .Every team ( possibly excluding the top 3) is shyt. So losing to Cardiff doesn’t really change anything as we haven’t beaten any of the top 3 ( who may or may not also be shyt). Even if we beat one of the top 3 would we still be shyt ?

 

I think you’re missing the point that in RC’s current world everyone & everything is shyt so win, draw or lose will not change the fact that we are currently utter-shyt.

 

Ok sorry I was trying to apply some logic but I’ll stop doing that now

 

The point is the whole league is utter shy this year and yet we're still losing to all and sundry. And most of our wins are wholly unconvincing.

The reason for this is a our dreadful manager and his appalling decision making. For example, betting the house in Jebbison.

 

He’s been well and truly found out.

 

It worries me how many times we have to change things at half time because the initial plan was SO OBVIOUSLY wrong.

 

If you're gonna play wing backs then why isn't he picking one of our better attacking full backs? To pick the one full back who has 0 technical ability is just ludicrous.

 

Either Andrews or Festy does the wing back role better than Ngakia. Because they can attack. If we are playing four at the back I am totally fine with Ngakia. Because he's not asked to bomb forward as much.

It's pretty simple

 

I would argue that Ngakia is poorer in every way. Not up to this level, but a favourite of Clevs. Just like 4 or 5 others in this team.

 

If they still were printed on paper I would be throwing my season ticket in the bin. Despicable performance

 

Is it getting to the point that our few wins are despite Cleverley rather than because of him?!

 

He's not a good manager. At all. The defensive performances and away form are completely inexcusable at this point, as are his baffling team selections.

 

We can probably afford to give him time to learn but he’s dangled the play-off carrot in front of Gino given our league position and so I think his job is in danger.

He desperately needs to get the defence organised. It’s getting worse. Every goal today was a shambles from a defensive unit perspective. All the chopping and changing really doesn’t help on that front. His faith in the ability of players to drop in and out and maintain a consistent level of performance defies logic. Maybe that works at the very top level but there’s no way our lot can pull that off.

 

This guy on page 1 of the thread seems to know what he's talking about.

 

Lost our home record to the team with no away wins

Then follow up by conceding 3 to the team without a shot on target in their previous two matches

You wonder what the prep is

 

Managers should learn their trade in the lower leagues, then a club likes ours snaps them up after they've learned.

Why on earth are we wasting time on this dud?

 

Help him with a mentor and some crafty signings and see if he learns.

We know who is to blame but he doesn't appear to know what to do I agree.

 

As we’re talking about Gino Pozzo, I think you must have meant to say ‘crazy’ rather than ‘crafty’.

 

We'll get the sum total of a small hen in its late forties and a second hand espresso machine I expect!

If we're lucky!

 

Fully backing our Tom, doing a fine job with this bunch of misfits in what is still his rookie season. Even if we tail off and finish around mid table I would want him still here come August. We have got a great bunch of young players coming through and I think we should be concentrating on them and developing them for the rest of this season ready for next season. No more of the Ince and Sissoko Statler and Waldorf tribute act in midfield please.

 

Agreed. The way to get a solid no-nonsense defence with the quality of player that populates most Championship squads is to decide on your preferred set up and then play the same players as often as possible. Especially the main CBs and keeper. Drill them incessantly in pre-season and between matches so it all becomes 2nd nature.
Something our Tom seems pathologically averse to.

 

I can see us loosing all the games in January which will make things interesting

 

Ismael got us in a similar position at the midway point last season, and it was only when relegation became a slight possibility that he was canned, I think he's OK for this season unless the same happens

 

Although he is a likeable rookie manager , he seemed to of been ******* in the wind and not getting wet ,but now the results are starting to go wrong and he doesn't seem to have a plan b,he hasn't tried playing our too duds upfront together ,I know ,but as Jimmy greaves used to say it's a funny old game
Failing that play the same formation as the opposition then you will see who is up for the individual battles and who wants to keep the shirt ,cos as it stands ,we all know we lose matches but it's the manner at which we lose that urks me ,I don't do gutless

 

In February we play Norwich, Sunderland, Leeds, Middlesbrough in quick succession before L*ton at home. If TC hasn’t stopped the rot before then he’ll be gone. How he’s going to do that with our spineless team I have no idea.

 

Does you good to have something to look forward to!

 

How good do we think our squad actually is ? Where do we think this squad should sit in the table ?
Poor decisions or not presumably that’s the only way to assess whether he’s doing a good job overall or not ? We were hot relegation favourites weren’t we ?

 

We do have a relatively poor squad, but, that’s the case for a lot of the league. A lot of what we saw today was just down to poor coaching more than anything, there is no reason to be so defensively shambolic for something like the 2nd goal other than not being well coached as a team. Constantly chopping and changing the defence won’t help, but again that’s his choice as coach.

So I don’t think we can just blame the players for every single thing that goes wrong and say he’s doing a good job, when in many cases it’s the things his coaching and decisions directly affect that are going wrong.

He’d be helped massively if we at least had a decent striker, but the issue with that is his poor decisions have to a degree created the situation of us not having any.

Obviously Pozzo is unpredictable, and he’s made plenty of decisions not rooted in reality before, but I really do feel this time that he’s doesn’t see us as being in the frame for promotion, and it would just be a nice bonus if we ended up in the mix, so I don’t see his job being in any danger unless we look like getting relegated. We’re just an average team, with an average manager who makes as many mistakes himself as the players do.