Tom Cleverley - Head Coach

Pathetic away from home, but we need to persevere with TC. As I live in hope he will turn it around

 

We are a squad with a good number of tricky no. 10s but are blunted away from home because the no. 9s are inadequate. But this conversation has been held many, many times before.

 

Yes, except there is no point in getting anyone else in. Pozzo out.

 

Give it t’real madrid bloke til end of t’season

 

I’m blaming Chris Martin and Coldp1ay

 

Yet we still have Kayembe playing in the #10 role, you couldn’t make it up.

 

I blame....me!

 

Well quite!
Although I wore it until we lost for the first time and then,as ever,it was dismissed.
I wore my Fiorentina shorts under my tracksuit bottoms,to no avail.
Perhaps it's back to leggings as Amy Winehouse almost sang?

 

Our heaviest defeat in a derby for over 40 years but ironically the last manager to lose one by that much was God in 26/09/1981, to the only team that finished above us.

But GT’s stock was already high following two successive promotions and him establishing us at this level (which 1969-72 had proved to be a real challenge). Rightly or wrongly, Cleverley is going to be judged more harshly as patience among fans is thin following two really disappointing seasons and two miserable relegations from the Prem, and the fact is that’s three away defeats by three goals to a team in poor form in a row.

 

He should have started his managerial career in the lower leagues.

Why the hell are we giving the job to someone with no experience, and who is clearly thick too?

Sack this **** and get some highly experienced Italian in.

 

He has got a ****ing lot of making up to do after today.

 

We'll beat Leeds away and it'll all be OK.

 

I don’t think we will….

 

I think today was a real real bad day for TC as it's the first time fans are now actively holding him as culpable as the players.

There is no hiding from the fact that he is learning on the job, but in the main, we've been picking up points at home. But this feels like it's more been based on luck/vibes than any sort of tactical nous.
Away from home however his inexperience is more evident yet rather than learning he seems to be repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

Coupled with this, the team has a very weak mentality and the "leaders" are some of the worst for going missing - yet he persists on picking then. God forbid If we get stuck in a loosing cycle/relegation fight later in the season as I wouldn't trust them to be able to fight themselves out of a wet bag.

The next week is arguably the biggest test in TCs managerial career, the Leeds game can not be seen as a write off, and simple he can not afford to lose at home against Blackburn

 

Why are we letting him use us as his work experience? It's completely mental.

Teams are a reflection of the manager's leadership.

 

Pozzo went for him as he would be cheap as chips and would be happy to own cheap decisions in the press.

 

Cleverly has a 50% win rate this season, we’re currently 8th in a season many punters on here expected us to be fighting relegation, and fans are now beginning to speculate he should go and should never has been appointed. Amazing imo.

 

The worrying thing is that our great home form has largely been achieved by battling wins in games that could have gone either way. Our terrible away form has been as a result of being completely outplayed. It is far more likely that we will be unable to keep up that home form rather than suddenly start winning away from home.

 

100%. 8th place is fantastic with this squad and lack of backing but if our home form falls below outstanding it can change quickly. Goodness knows where morale goes if we take a 0-3 tonking at home, or a couple of home losses on the bounce if we continue to be annihilated in every away game.

 

I really like him but he’s slowly starting to make me hate him by forcing me to watch Bayo every week, never had less enjoyment watching a Watford striker. Even Gray was more threatening.

 

What makes people think that our away form can’t improve? It’s October.

 

I just want to suggest that you don’t blame him for Bayo. He’s the only senior striker in the squad. That is not really his fault. The fact that he sent Rajovic (hardly the finished article) on loan may have been his decision, but neither Rajovic nor Bayo were his choices in the first place.

 

A lack of any credible goal threat .
When the worldies dry up , as they have , ..........

 

Funny you say this…

As it was said to me that Pozzo was showing another manager (foreign but I don’t have a name) around VR on MATCHDAY whilst TC was still in the interim role. It was pointed out to Pozzo just how unprofessional that was and he was persuaded over time to give TC a chance.

I’m not convinced that Pozzo won’t get rid of Cleverley in a similar way he got rid of Edwards.

 

Is it amazing given the clubs track record on managers since Pozzo came in? I’d say it’s an entirely fair and sensible thread to be discussing.

If he was sacked this afternoon, would you really be ‘amazed’?

 

Because it’s been awful for years.

 

Jebbison has played more than enough senior football to be classed as a senior striker, despite his age.

And the fact is Cleverley has totally owned that transfer. And is picking Bayo over him. I fail to see how we can’t blame TC for Bayo.

 

Realistically our home form will dip, it’s pretty inevitable. Hopefully our away form will improve a bit although I suspect we will slip down the table. My point is that’s it’s silly for punters to be suggesting Cleverly should go based on his current season win rate which is at the dizzy heights of Billy Mckinlay. ( btw im not suggesting you said TC should go)