Things you hate IV

Discussion in 'Taylor's Tittle-Tattle - General Banter' started by hornmeister, Jun 25, 2019.

  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Me too. An extra hour in bed is not worth the stress caused by a bit of traffic delay, taxi late, puncture, long queues at check-in etc. Much better to take all of that out of the equation and read a book for a bit.
     
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  2. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    That will be used as part of my reply as well.
     
  3. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Completely understand for a midday flight ;)
     
  4. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Not part - that's your entire reply to them. The 40 odd words. C&P it.
     
  5. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    We used to fly regularly from L*t*n to Inverness and before the airport was expanded is used to be quite a pleasant relaxing one to fly from. Afterwards it was clear they were trying to screw as much money out of passengers as possible, as well as being much busier. Fortunately we no longer need to go to Scotland and for our regular trips to Spain we always use Gatwick, so we’ve never been back.
     
  6. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    What are you doing looking at ads for Mercedes, comrade? Don't let the capitalist pigs turn your head now that the great leader is so close to seizing power
     
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  7. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Corbyn's mounting a coup? Why didn't anyone tell me?
     
  8. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Interesting advice re the drop off charge at Heathrow. I've fallen foul of that a couple of times recently. It's a total swizz. Within about five seconds of driving off all thoughts of going online and paying the bloody 5 quid completely disappear and only return when the ba5tard5 hit you with the 'fine'
     
  9. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Ontological relativism is what we do best in Snorbens. 'Woodies are crap at it, I hear.
     
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  10. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    "...crap..." or too tied to epistemologic theory - it's all relative.
     
  11. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    You have my word that those 40 words will be my only reply. I will update this thread with the reply and results.
     
  12. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    lu*on airport in my eyes is the same as specsavers, (lol at savers). Both out to screw every penny from their "customers".
     
  13. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Squad Player

    Mercedes4Corbyn - a powerful left wing group
     
  14. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Normally what happens is that the Private Parking Company will send you a Penalty Charge Notice or a Notice to Keeper offering that if you pay it now it's only half the original amount. You will be told you can write to them with reasons why you shouldn't pay it (that's only because they want you to say "...I was driving..." that gives them a chance to try and 'do' you under the Protection of Freedoms Act). That's your first appeal - that's when you send in the 40 words. Normally the PPC would 'read' your appeal and note your address and then send you a load of legalese cobblers quoting very selectively from POFA - your first threatogramm. The thing is, virtually everything the PPC quotes from the POFA is cobblers and virtually everything written they produce (from the signage to the PNC to the NTK) is not POFA compliant. My son's 40-odd words killed the process at the first step.

    If you want to go the POPLA route - you can request a POPLA code from the PPC, 'draft' (ie c&p) a lengthy defence as it costs the PPC about £28 to go down this route.
     
  15. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    I’ve just gone through this with Euro Carparks. Got a ticket for overstaying in a car park that has anpr but the ticket machine wasn’t working.

    PCNs are just invoices, I appealed to them and it was denied, I appealed to popla and it was also denied, the reality is they’ll now probably sell it to a debt collection agency who will keep sending letters, but they have no power to do anything and it won’t be worth their while to take it to court. You just have to have the confidence to ignore them after you’ve exhausted the normal process. Worst case scenario it goes to court and you pay the fine,
     
  16. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I'm a bit out of the loop on PCNs and the law, and imagine @Bwood_Horn will know for sure, but I'd say it really will be worth their while to take it to court, given that's really just an administrative step of sorts and means they can enforce the 'fine', plus bung a load of statutory enforcement charges on top. Whether Euro Carparks would take it to a full hearing if you indicated you intended to defend yourself in court I don't know. I guess they might accept full payment at that point?
     
  17. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    First of all: YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TAKE MEDICAL LEGAL ADVICE FROM SOME ANONYMOUS PERSON ON THE 'NET.

    I think I got onto 'their' (the PPCs) "too much trouble" list so I don't get 'hit' by them (please note all the PPCs I've ever received have been inadvertently obtained and cancelled).

    When a PPC has had their day in court it generally has ended in tears (apart from 1 or 2 cases that the PPC always use to show how powerful they are) for the plaintiff. There's a famous case in PCN-world (VCS v Ibbotson) where the judge ordered that the PPC's legal representation had better bring a toothbrush to court after he lost his rag over the PPC equating the running costs of their 'business' (sic) as the losses that the 'illegally parked' (sic.) defendant were liable for - it's known as the "Toothbrush Case".

    A wonderful blogger used to record all these cases and behaviour of the PPCs - but I think he suddenly died. A particular legal firm was favoured by the PPCs 'Gladstones' - so incompetent were they (or had such rubbish briefs) he used to taunt the losing PPC's by announcing that "... you've been Gladstoned!!!!"

    I bottled out, actually I couldn't be arsed, from taking a PPC to court...
     
  18. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    IIRC the Supreme Court shut down a lot of those types of challenge in the Beavis case - https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/supreme-court-dismisses-85-parking-ticket-challenge/5051987.article
     
  19. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Beavis shut down the losses/costs argument (the 'toothbrush' was in 2012 and I was just using as an example of their court behviour) BUT virtually everything written the PPC's produce is not POFA compliant. Also, IIRC, Beavis was a bit of an own-goal for the PPC industry as the judgment called the monies collected via PCNs as "...fines..." - all was sweet and dandy when the PPCs were collecting "...losses..." but when they started to collect "...fines..." HMRC became very interested in their earnings...
     
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  20. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Three Rivers District Council
     
  21. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    From what I’ve read on the dedicated MSE forums about it, there is no way to charge you any more than the actual fine by taking you to court, and as long as you then pay the fine in £30 days then that’s all you’ll have to pay and there will be no risk of a CCJ. I think there might be something like £50 to pay in costs, but that has nothing to do with ECP. So from my point of view it’s not worth paying as worst case scenario I just have to pay the original fine. The debt collection agencies will threaten with court. But ultimately if it goes to court they don’t get a penny, so it’s actually not in their interests for that to happen either.
     
  22. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Red nose day
     
  23. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Thread won. Close it mods. We need Things You Hate V.
     
  24. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I think Lenny Henry is hilarious
     
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  25. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Woke.
     
  26. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Was it red nose Day yesterday?
     
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  27. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Yes. Bizarre that the BBC barely mentioned today, yesterday, the last week…..
     
  28. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Welcome to the forum Mrs Henry.
     
  29. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Bet it was Gary Linekars fault.
     
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  30. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I'm sure. Left wing saboteur.
    Ps I keep forgetting to try that Tring Brewery ale !
     
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  31. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    You're missing out! They sell it at the Vic in the upper GT.
     
  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Badly scripted skits involving good humoured celebs interspersed with images of seriously ill African kids. What a ride.
     
  33. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Supermarkets
    You really get up close and personal with the great unwashed don't you? Just packed with people who are completley oblivious to how annoying and obstructive they are.

    Plus Supermarkets, like airlines, have indulged in a race to the bottom as far as service goes.

    Used to be the option to use a self checkout would save you a bit of time if you only had a few bits. Now you have to queue for 5 minutes to scan your full trolley, with annoying pauses because you bought beer or because the scales detected a mote of dust which didn't get scanned and you have to wait 2 minutes for the sole employee servicing 25 checkouts to come over and beep their override paper.

    Just a horrible experience and often getting worse.
     
  34. hornmeister

    hornmeister Tired

    The self scan as you go round things are ace though. Immediately tell you the price because invariably the label on the shelf is wrong and it's a quick zap and pay and you're off. Stuff put straight into bags int he trolly, no messing.
     
  35. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Until you get randomly chosen for a bag check as I seem to every ****ing time.
     

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