Terrorism In The Uk: Will We Ever Be Rid Of It?

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Nov 17, 2021.

  1. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Two attacks within weeks. Another and the Government will be under real pressure. But is there much that can be done about it, especially if attacks are by previously ‘unknown’ suspects?
     
  2. Well, if we can live with covid (only 214 dead yesterday)...
     
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  3. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Fair play to that taxi driver by the way. Blimey can life escalate in a short period of time.
     
  4. Can you explain to me why the taxi driver is a hero, other than that he survived? Genuinely mystified.
     
  5. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I think we need more terrorists to keep us on our toes and make sure we remember to value our lives more. I find the new ones more exciting than the old flavour Irish ones as they dont phone ahead warnings and are more random in their targets, add in the fact that they sometimes blow themselves up and you have a comedy element also.

    If I was a terrorist I would most definitely target dams as the destruction would be massive, hit three or four of the big ones at the same time and a lot of the country would be crippled. Add in the fact they have zero security and it is a no brainer really.

    Where or what would you target if you were a terrorist?
     
  6. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    I think we are yet to know all the details, but presumably for not letting the guy get nearer to people he could harm. All this with his ear hanging off.

    He even let the bomber off his fare.
     
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  7. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    An interesting take, however, for the avoidance of doubt, this is not the pro-terrorism thread.
     
  8. Don't tell Anti-Anti-Terrorist Priti Patel.
     
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  9. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Tbf, if terrorists only attack Liverpool I'm prepared to look the other way.
     
  10. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    I think I read somewhere that we won the war on terror. So that's good
     
  11. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    TBF she’s very firm on counter-counter terrorism.

     
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  12. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Forgive my ignorance but what was the first?
     
  13. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    David Amess.
     
  14. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Bloody hell how did I forget that! Thanks for the reminder.
     
  15. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Nah, that was a lone nutcase murdering one man. Was it called terrorism when the Cox lady was murdered?
     
  16. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Ok thanks, will start one.
     
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  17. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Yes.
     
  18. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    Asking for a friend. - These bombs that you're going to blow the dams up with...how would you go about designing, constructing, delivering and activating them? Do bear in mind that the one outside the hospital wasn't even capable of blowing all the bloody doors off a car.


    As to my preferred targets, I'd strap explosives to dogs - not with the intention of killing or blowing up people or buildings, but just in the hope of killing a lot of dogs. Dogs are ****.
     
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  19. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I dont wish to reveal all my methods, I am sure you understand, but the Liverpool taxi guy was a total amateur.

    This may help you?

    https://www.google.com/search?q=how...&ved=0ahUKEwjF7pGo05_0AhWHUcAKHfE_D5oQ4dUDCAg

    I was planning on using horses as horses are just big dogs that are stupid enough to let people ride them.
     
  20. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Joke's on you, then. Left to their own devices, all a horse will do is put his head down and eat.

    He won't be walking anywhere with your IED.
     
  21. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Should've got Michael Caine involved....
     
  22. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I think we have more of a chance in curing Cancer forever than stopping Terrorism. It's gone on for decades, and will continue to happen all over the world. Be the root of it personal hatred, revenge or religion, it's like a weed that refuses to die. I still remember Lockerby(sp?) That was awful. It's very scary that we will end up wiping ourselves out as a race before a global disaster does that for us, like a new Ice age or when the Sun finally dies.
     
  23. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    ISTR that was just the detonator not the main charge.
     
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  24. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Terrorism has been present in society for hundreds of years. Guy Fawkes was a religious zealot, determined to impose his views through an attack on the state.

    The key is to ensure in responding to acts of terrorism, society neither, (through suppression), reinforces the motivations of terrorists nor change the relationship between citizens and the state.
     
  25. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Aren’t the rumours that he locked the doors of his cab, trapping a man with a suicide vest inside, so he wouldn’t attack a women’s hospital?
     
  26. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    u shore m8 i fort he was a mercenary (a very ordinary profession at the time)
     
  27. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Yes. Thomas Mair was considered a far right wing terrorist by the police and the courts. It is difficult to consider him anything else, even if he was acting as a lone nutter. Personally, I think most, if not all, terrorists could be considered insane by society. Acting collectively or individually is moot to those they affect.
     
  28. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Fawkes? Twas known to ye brayne helth practitionaires and those servants who seek to prevente.
     
  29. Wexford-yellow

    Wexford-yellow Academy Graduate

    It would take a huge bomb to blow a dam, the IRA would not have been able to build such a bomb and they had smuggled tonnes of semtex into Ireland a country with a much weaker security force than Britain. They also had a fairly large group to hide, make, and deliver bombs. It would take an airforce to blow a dam, the best a small group of people ( a singular cell )
    could hope for would be to stop the water flowing to some taps for a while.
    As for terrorism itself isn't Britain one of the best anti terrorist forces in the world. Through the long campaign in Northern Ireland they developed and perfected so many systems. Wasnt their security knowledge and capabilities one of the big losses to Europe through the Brexit debacle.
    I'm not sure countries want to wipe it completely as it is a huge industry,
    Every street has a camera now, who sells these systems.
     
  30. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    These terrorists are rubbish
    Isn't affecting the food chain\water supply more effective than trying
    to blow up a maternity ward ?
    Guido Fawkes ? Over rated IMO . He was the lookout , a bit part, the Ronnie
    Biggs of the operation.
     
  31. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Yes their attacks tend to be small in the scheme of things (911 excepted).

    But that's not the point. The huge cost to the nation and fear generated is all they require. The actual result is almost immaterial.

    A favourite tactic of the paramilitaries in NI was to just drive a car/van/bus into a street and abandon it in the middle of the road.

    It always needed to be treated as a potential bomb with the resultant chaos of road closures and the attendance of the bomb squad.

    Most of the time it was nothing but the impact it had was all the terrorists wanted.
     
  32. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Now, that would cause genuine outrage. We can accept blowing up kids at a pop concert, but exploding dogs is another level altogether
     
  33. Wexford-yellow

    Wexford-yellow Academy Graduate

    The Russians used suicide dogs in world war 2 and beyond
     
  34. domthehornet

    domthehornet Moderator Staff Member

    Didn't they only train the dogs on their own tanks though?
     
  35. Bwood_Horn

    Bwood_Horn Squad Player

    Yes but not for very long though.

    Yep. First use in battle they ran back towards the familiar sight (more likely smell or sound) of the Soviet tanks...
     
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