Summerwolf 2022 - Chapter 5 'hearts And Minds'

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Optimistichornet, Jun 28, 2022.

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Who should be lynched?

  1. Cthulhu

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  2. wfcwarehouse

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  3. miked2006

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  4. Diamond

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  5. wfcmoog

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  6. AshdonWFC

    9.1%
  7. TomWatfordFC

    18.2%
  8. Harrow Orn

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  9. EB Hornet

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  10. tonycotonstache

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  11. With A Smile

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  1. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Don't the wolves know each other?
     
  2. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Honestly we have lost a seer, otherwise the messages style has been switched
    If it hasn't been switched then we are truly stuffed
     
  3. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    This was my question. If Skyla knew one of the others (as on Friday please kill was a group of 2 and is now dead) do we have 2 wolves that don't hunt together? Is that a clue for us?
     
  4. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    When did they find out about each others identity though? Was it night 1?
     
  5. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Unless they've worked out who the other wolf is. This has happened before but I've never had the skills to do it when I've had wolf roles in the past.

    The only other defence I can give for not lynching a likely good is that we may get the backup seer in the process.
     
  6. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    WAS has voted for Tom did he declare why?

    Im seeing no reason so far not to go for WAS but will hold off a little longer
     
  7. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    WAS probably voted for me because I'm on the naughty list.
     
  8. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    I'm still erring on voting for WaS. I can't see how voting for anyone else tells us anything unless we strike it lucky.
     
  9. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    Based on non-evidenced theories, WaS deflected early attention of himself with his crazy 'dot' theory on day one.

    But I'll be voting him tonight as makes more sense than anyone else based on what is hopefully / probably the seers message.

    Pitchforks to the ready!
     
  10. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Oops - missed off Burnsy who was named as good by the Pirate. That's my theory out of the window!
     
  11. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Voting WAS because it gives us the most information. We are still in a decent position even if WAS is good.
     
  12. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    I voted for Tom yesterday as well.
    There were just loads of little things which didn't add up, a lot of diverting, sitting on the fence, playing but not saying anything.

    The one and only reason i can think that it would not be Tom is that SkylaRose was a wolf. Would Opti take the risk of having two inexperienced players in team Evil? It could have run the risk of the game finishing really early
     
  13. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Much as it goes against my thinking I fear we have no choice WaS. If you have confessions then save them until you're 100% doomed.
     
  14. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    CLARIFICATION - Opti does want he wants…that’s how he rolls! Seriously all roles were selected by the hat.
     
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  15. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Fair enough, but I can assure you today has been very busy. I work in one of the many sectors where there are ongoing strikes and we're short-staffed! Not fun.
     
  16. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    As I said to Cthulhu, if I hadn't been named, then I would be lynching someone messaged as evil as it would be the most logical and sensible choice.

    I really hope that it shows the messages to be - Pirate at the start of the game - seer, Pirate now - Wolf
    I suspect the wolf will change styles tomorrow, because of that.
    But at least you will have a list of goods and smaller list of probable evils.

    If I am the tinker, which is a 1 in 21 chance based on the good players at the start of the game so very very unlikely, then team good are stuffed basically and Harrow has played a blinder
     
  17. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    I'm not sure WAS has really done anything to show himself as evil, so I'd be interested in hearing what logic was applied to his viewing (I'm aware this'll be after the game ends). The elipsis/dot theory on day one was a bit off-piste and random but there have been a number of theories flung about.

    Tom remains high on my suspect list for the reasons previously given by myself (and others). Diamond has become a bit more confrontational and aggressive in his gameplay the last couple of days and has stated that vocal players tend to put themselves in the firing line to take heat off, but he's a highly experienced player so knows what he's doing either way.

    I honestly have no idea who I'm voting for as something doesn't feel right to me about WAS being named evil.
     
  18. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Why do you suspect/know it is Harrow?
     
  19. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    My new list:

    Very suspicious:
    Ashdon

    Suspicious:
    Warehouse
    Tom
    EB
    Tony

    Likely good:
    WAS

    Good:
    Moog
    Diamond
    Cthulhu
    Harrow
    Me (although that's up to you to decide)
     
  20. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    I would love to know where your suspicions have arrived from. This is just like Skyla yesterday randomly picking me out from nowhere and voting for me. Very suspect seeing as she was a wolf when we killed her.
     
  21. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Rather than re-typing everything I have posted today, i'm going to ask you why i'm on my own up there? What makes me so suspicious?
     
  22. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    I'd also like to know why you believe I'm suspicious, Mike?
     
  23. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    I'll be named as good later today. So you will know that the Pirate message is from the wolf today and has been for a couple of days.
    If on the absolute, 21/1 chance - highly unlikely, that I am the tinker, then it means that the messages are the other way around and those named good earlier in the week are in fact evil.

    If that is the case then I will happily tip my hat to team evil for playing a blinder
     
  24. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    The dot thing was because there was nothing happening on day 1
    Both messages had named the same player as good
    So i was just trying to provoke a reaction from someone and shake up a boring start.
    It just so happened that two or three people had put ... and replied to each other having ... in their messages. No other reason
     
  25. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Sorry Mike but that's a strange assumption. I answered one of your questions about wolves knowing each other with a plausible idea and now I'm a suspect?
     
  26. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    Well Mike you do seem to have stirred up a little nest of hornets. Well played.
     
  27. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    I'm likely dead tonight and if not, numbers suggest I'll be a target tomorrow. If I can draw attention away from the seer, I'm happy.
     
  28. AshdonWFC

    AshdonWFC Prediction League Champion 2011/12

    Three people who you're just naming as suspect and then offering no narrative when called out on it? It's an interesting tactic.
     
  29. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    So let's look back at the excellent work done by the Guardian:

    Night 1. Cthulhu
    Night 2. Steve Leo Beleck
    Night 3. Burnsy
    Night 4. With a Smile

    Another reason IMO to think of not lynching WaS.
     
  30. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Because you're playing like such a classic wolf. Keeping your powder dry, not leading anything, but coming up with clever deflections that show you have thought about the game. Even on the very rare occasion you give a slightly accusatory statement when its not in defence, you make it indirect, agreeing with someone else or softening it to not appear wolflike: "Sit on the fence more regarding the messages! ;)"

    Plus you have shown you are a very good player and from memory have won the game for evil before, but you were feigning inexperience earlier in the game.

    I would be interested in hearing your views on who the wolves are though?
     
  31. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    You don’t have to do anything evil to be the alpha wolf and live. You just have to not be viewed and kill each night.

    say sensible things that appear good. And kill at night that’s how I played it.

    looking for a devious evil player as the alpha is silliness
     
  32. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Sorry WAS I see no real reason not to vote you. The theory that the pirate has switched is nonsense
     
  33. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    I do understand where Diamond is coming from. If he is good, and only Diamond will know this of course, then he is going to believe the first message is the seer and therefore the second is the wolf.

    But, as I said we don't know Diamond is good so the only way we can almost confirm that is by lynching WAS. It would clear up the messages.

    I guess my question for Diamond is what lynch is going to give us better info than WAS?

    Tom? He's my main suspect for various reasons. Even WatfordTalk getting killed overnight suggests it could be an newbie wolf who done it which does match up But if Tom is good we learn nothing at all.

    So any others?
     
  34. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    On the basis that you know you're good
    And I will be proved to be good later on
    Then you will see that i am correct

    I would have voted for someone named as evil as well, for what its worth
     
  35. Diamond

    Diamond First Team

    I threw that out there yesterday as a plausible theory, but that only holds water if CB wasn't the tinker.
     
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