[SOLD] Samir

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Jul 24, 2022.

  1. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    That article indirectly exposes so many issues, its ludicrous. If AL is accurate then we now know:

    - Samir told them he wanted to leave at the start of pre-season, despite that, he played almost all of pre-season as a left footed CB is very important to RE's system
    - Bayat is brokering Samir's transfer, as well as having brokered his arrival - despite the player not being his client - i.e. Bayat is now just a de facto club employee
    - Despite knowing for weeks he was likely off, we havent progressed beyond the most tentative of early discussions for another left footed CB
    - As a result of the above, we likely start the season with a right footer at left cb and a left footer at right wing back
    - We can't afford £5m-£7m on a new signing (in this case a CB but presumably same applies to any further incomings) yet we paid £5m for a donkey from the Bayat stable who looks set to sit on the bench alongside a £6m keeper who isn't good enough to displace Bachmann

    It beggars belief that people are still defending these clowns
     
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  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Steady on old chap. You might get called toxic just before someone says they are flouncing from the horrible forum to talk about Watford in the pub.
     
  3. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    It's a f*cking disgrace.
     
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  4. "Sort out" by lining up a replacement and asking his club not to sell to anyone else because we just might want to buy him later in the window ? Or buy him and just assume that an offer will come in and we won't be "left with a spare" ? I'm sure they will have a list of potential replacements and now be working down that list if a suitable offer has come in for player & club.
     
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  5. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

     
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  6. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Disappointing I haven’t at least been put on the “ignore” naughty step!
     
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  7. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    How long before Rob walks
     
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  8. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    All well and good until you consider we bought Bayo to sort out the Bayats rather than wait for Dennis to be sold? He will now potentially be a “spare”. What didn’t they follow your advise on that one (we know why!).
     
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  9. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    There's no chance Samir would be staying once he made it clear he wanted to leave, worst case scenario he'd be off to Udinese. We've had plenty of time to source a replacement and yet we're only at the enquiry stage still.
     
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  10. Bayo is another story, may be a great signing, may not be, too early to say.
     
  11. So last relegation the Pozzos were killed for ringfencing all those who wanted to leave the club and making them train away from the first team. This year they are criticised for integrating them ?
     
  12. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Lol.
     
  13. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    If we ended up with such a decent Championship-experienced and homegrown defender like Clarke, I’m sure in a few weeks all today’s angst will be forgotten.

    Yes obviously it’s ideal to start the season with him, but as many of us keep saying it’s a 46 game slog.

    Teams evolve over the campaign.

    We were promoted last time with a side quite different from the one that started the Mboro match and which caused so much teeth gnashing here (and which won that match incidentally)

    We won’t be the only team in the league still fine-tuning as the window comes to an end and it’s a fallacy to think that.

    Saturday’s friendly showed that we don’t look in that bad shape, and hopefully Gaspar’s signing to come any hour now!
     
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  14. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Just a continuation of the shambles and never ending downward spiral of the past three or four years. As usual they've said a few of the right things at the end of the season but in reality it's all lies and words without substance. The whole situation with Bayat is an absolute disgrace, too.

    The sooner these shifty, incompetent w*nkers up and sell the club the better. Pathetic.
     
  15. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    But as a counter point, we've known for some time both Samir and Kiko were leaving. Both absolutely vital to the system and yet have made no attempt to replace them for the start of the season. It's once again awful treatment of the most important person at a football club, the head coach. Would you start a new job if for 7 weeks of the probation period you had to have your hands tied behind your back?
     
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  16. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Mario Gaspar is currently undergoing his media. Isn’t that an attempt to replace him for the start of the season?

    The paucity of left footed CBs is such that unless you pay a large fee for someone like Greaves (which we certainly should do and seemingly did at least consider/enquire about) then you have to make do with lining up a PL loanee and be beholden to the PL club’s timing.

    While our squad is short of what it could/should be it is less short than many of our rivals. Both Boro and Burnley need at least two strikers. Sheff Utd still haven’t replaced their best player from last season (Morgan Gibbs-White).
     
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  17. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Wasn't Kilo's replacement having a medical today?

    Hopefully we can replace Samir as quickly.
     
  18. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    Hi my friend. Nice to hear from you, always one of the best posters here.

    In what way have we made no attempt to replace them? We’ve been sounding out several left-footed defenders (as per the AL article) and hopefully tonight we will announce the arrival of a highly-experienced Kiko replacement.

    If you’d said, we haven’t replaced Samir then fair enough and yes I agree that’s frustrating. But it sounds as if we’ve been trying.

    As I said, of course ideally you’d want your strongest side ready to start the opening match but it doesn’t always work like that and over a 46 game season that not necessarily be terminal.
     
  19. YellowKicks

    YellowKicks Squad Player

    And you!

    I really like Gaspar, and I think it's a nice signing - but I'd be pretty worried if we see him as the sole Kiko replacement. I'd be hopeful he's cover in that area and seen as a RCB first and foremost. If not we've seriously not got the centre backs for a back three - and can't imagine he will be able to play more than say 30 games?

    Sounding out and approaching are two different things - if Edwards felt like he couldn't play pre season games without Samir as the balance was so vital, he really shouldn't have to play league games without. I do understand that Prem options often only open up later in the window, but then tell Samir he can leave at the end of the window, he's literally been playing anyway!
     
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  20. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Despite being on of the more positive fans on here, I cannot understand why we need to count on Bayat to engineer Samir’s return to Serie A. Here’s a player who played well in Serie A for a number of years and were talking about a division with which Pozzos is surely far better connected than Bayat. Why is this man involved? And even more than that why was he involved in the initial deal which was an intra-Pozzo deal?

    If we want him to work to broker all our deals as a salaried employee/consultant that’s not fine given his dishonest and disreputable behaviour but it would at least be preferable to having him broker all our deals and than paying him vast and disproportionate amounts in agents fees.
     
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  21. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    This part isn't as straight-forward as you make out - if we've been prioritising getting one of either Clarke or Hause on loan, who would likely be the two best and cheapest options - then we'll have been waiting on their parent clubs deciding if they're happy to move them on.

    It's the same as the Archer and Armstrong situations, we could have made it clear we want to sign them, but their clubs aren't yet ready to release them.
     
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  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Having watched some of his highlights of last season (though there weren't many available I could find, mind), I'd actually be more concerned if he's the RCB.

    He seems to have a decent cross on him, but be a complete coward defensively - yes even more than Kiko. So many of the goals and key chances I saw Villareal concede with him on the pitch had him only casually waddling over to close down his man, usually arriving much too late, and/or turning his back on shots and bottling challenges. It was up against more difficult opposition then we'll be facing next season, but he doesn't appear to have been covering himself in glory for Villareal this year.
     
  23. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    If we are taking AL's article at face value, he does mention/claim that Clarke is also wanted by West Brom, and given the fact that, alongside recruiting seemingly-strongly this summer, he was there last season and did so well/enjoyed himself so much he was named Player of the Season, I would be fairly surprised if he ended up choosing to come here over them.

    Particularly when we deliver our offer of £50 and a beanie baby a month for for the length of his contract, supplemented by a two beanie baby per diem for Mogi to be funded jointly by the selling club and the player himself.

    If we could somehow get him to sign over representation to the Mogul before he signs, though, then I could see that removing the roadblocks for Gino to agree to make an offer of £10m+.
     
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  24. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Good post, sums up my thoughts exactly so saved me a post.

    The owners are absolute jokers. Truly pathetic.
     
  25. Heidar

    Heidar Reservist

    Feels like when Silva wanted a left back and was given Zeegelaar.
     
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  26. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Flip side is he’d play in a back four there and a back three for us which should suit his game more and would be better for his overall development considering more and more English sides are playing a back 3 (including his parent club).
     
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  27. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Or when Ivic wanted a left back and was given f*ck all.
     
  28. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Fingers crossed, then...

    Anyone who has access here, start pooling your Beanie Babies now. It will smooth the whole deal.
     
  29. Jon G

    Jon G Academy Graduate

    Oh, you’re far too entertaining for that.
     
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  30. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

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  31. wfcmoog

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  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    These people will argue white is black before they accept that the exact same practices that have made the club a laughing stock for 3 seasons are still company policy.

    Go back and read those Duckbrie tell all interviews with Andrew French again. They've already aged like milk.

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  33. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    It's been too long since I last saw that
     
  34. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Odds on us lining up for the first game with no left footed centre back and playing our best left wing back on the right have to be quite high right now. Still, King Ken and all that.
     
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  35. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Why, has the deal for Gaspar been delayed?
     

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