[SIGNED perm] Samir

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by hornetboy1, Jan 3, 2022.

  1. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    That we didn't sign them in the summer.
     
  2. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    This is no what a criticism of the signings - but just playing devils advocate.

    Maybe ‘in their prime’ isn’t good enough for what we need? Plenty of terrible footballers play for top level clubs - we have a number ourselves. Poor players in their prime are still poor players - see ‘Ken Sema’.

    (As I say this isn’t really about the 2 players in question - but the parameters you set out don’t really guarantee they will be good enough, that’s all!)
     
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  3. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Doing business properly would have been to get them in the summer when they were obviously needed.
     
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  4. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Well, duh!
     
  5. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Got to be honest, better window already than I was expecting. Anything from here is a bonus.
     
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  6. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    I can understand the lack of reinforcement at CB to a certain extent. While he certainly wasn't perfect last season I dont think anyone expected WTE to **** the bed in quite the matter he has and there has been some bad luck with injuries.

    However, bringing in Danny Rose as the only back up to Masina was utter madness in circumstances where Masina has been absolutely ***** for 95% of his Watford career and Danny Rose was 3 stone overweight with zero interest in being a footballer any more.
     
  7. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Not so sure. Lots of people were predicting what a nightmare WTE would be in the premier league half way though the championship and we already knew Cathcart was substandard. We then sold Wilmot so the chances of one of those pair playing most games was high even if Sierralta stepped up and stayed fit. I think starting a premier league season with our 4 cbs will be the reason we go down. That said they are busy repairing damage as we speak. Agree on left back as well - but feels you can get away with it a bit more there.
     
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  8. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford First Year Pro

    Stupid question but does mean he's in England now?
     
  9. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    People were predicting his horrific passing would cause us problems. I dont think anyone was expecting him to start ducking under balls in front of opposition striker or any of the other bonkers defensive errors he has made.

    They were certainly chancing it, but I dont really remember a time when they weren't doing that. All I am saying is that I think 1 good and 3 reasonable championship centre backs is probably still a better position than having one mediocre championship left back and a rotund bloke who hadn't played football in two years.
     
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  10. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I remember there was actually one wisened savant who replied to my posts decrying how appalling/dangerous WTE was with his passing and decision-making a couple of times, highlighting the fact that he also shaped up to defend attackers but then turned his body sideways and tried not to get hit by the ball in a cowardly fashion every time - I can't recall who it was off the top of my head, I'm afraid, but the evidence is out there if they care to look/they know who they are.
     
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  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    It was @Carpster :

    https://wfcforums.com/index.php?threads/2021-22-squad.58210/page-6#post-2995520
     
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  12. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    He certainly had his issues, but so do most players.

    All I am saying is that I didn't expect him to go from looking like a reasonable championship centre back to looking like one of the most inept players the PL has ever seen. He played the most minutes of any of them in that record equalling defence. There are plenty of players who looked a similar standard to him in the champ who have stepped up and at least been able to do a job in the PL - Cathcart among them.
     
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  13. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

  14. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

  15. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I agree that I don't think literally anyone saw him becoming the worst consistent CB starter the Prem has ever seen, because it's by its very nature an outlandish and unlikely/rare scenario, but I certainly saw WTE as being even more exposed in the Prem than in the Championship and that those problems would stack up - in my period of research failing to find what @lowerrous managed to, over the last ten minutes or so, what I did find was a decent amount of people (though a huge minority, relatively-speaking, of course) who did indeed express those kind of concerned sentiments about the idea of WTE playing/starting for us at Prem level.
     
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  16. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

  17. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Ok fine, if we're jacking ourselves off I'll just highlight to the wider world that that prophetic Carpster post was in reply to me saying this:

    upload_2022-1-6_21-50-58.png

    No comment on any of my wrong opinions.
     
  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Plenty of people expected it. The evidence is all here in these pages sadly.
     
  19. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Okay - but I will comment on your abysmal attempt at using the quote function. :p
     
  20. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    What!?! There was literally no attempt, by choice - it's a screenshot - far more elegant and illustrative. Takes the people back without the tedium of having to erase the little grey boxes with their minds.
     
  21. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    I was excited about us signing Ekong.

    I just want to point out how amazing I am for admitting I was wrong.
     
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  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Okay, no worries.
     
  23. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    So...you are pleased or no?
     
  24. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford First Year Pro

  25. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    I was in the same boat and was also buzzing to be rid of Dawson.

    That West Ham game was a pretty grim experience.
     
  26. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    In fairness - pretty much every single position in the squad needed reinforcement.

    I dont think anyone who has watched Kabasele, Cathcart etc over the years wouldn't have liked us to sign another centre back, however we clearly had extremely limited funds, and it was a position that looked in marginally less dire straights than others given we would have been staring down the barrel of a Cleverley, Dan Phillips and Tom Dele Bashiri midfield.
     
  27. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

  28. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

  29. Wallosh10

    Wallosh10 Academy Graduate

    We will still struggle defensively without a defensive midfielder.

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  30. GarbeliaHornet

    GarbeliaHornet Academy Graduate

    That needs to be a word.
     
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  31. Not seen on the forum since 31/8/21 :(
     
  32. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    He really should see a doctor about that lump.
     
  33. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    If the good Samiriton has signed as a left-back, I agree this should be a priority. Younger legs in midfield will be vital, especially considering fixture congestion
     
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  34. No worries. Rose is already being surgically removed.
     
  35. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    So what were the hysterics two pages back all about? Madness.
     

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