Ridiculous Conspiracy Theories. That Turn Out To Be True…

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  1. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    https://www.google.com/search?q=tik...xmAEAoAEByAEIwAEB&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp

    A Democrats wet dream unfolded at a recent campaign stop for the Virginia governor Republican candidate. Can you imagine their absolute delight when a group of Charlottesville styled white supremacists, one of them black (conclusive proof that uncle Tom’s are an existential threat to their fellow “blacks”), turn up to form an honour guard in front of the campaign bus?

    Republican candidate, Glenn Youngkin, smeared by association, job done.

    Only this type of false flag activity has become so ubiquitous that no-one was convinced for a moment by the attempt to undermine the Republican campaign. The apparent FBI plot to kidnap Gretchen Widmer, the numerous un-named FBI agents and paid informers involved on 6 January, and the 6 January “Trump” rally attended by more under cover feds, security and press than Trump supporters, have all shed light on the antics of the establishment to present Trump and his supporters as white supremacists.

    So Youngkin supporters immediately smell a rat and start calling out these imposters, and the left describe them as crazy conspiracists for doing so. Well they must be. Mustn’t they?

    “Hooter. You are nothing but a looney conspiracy theorist.” I hear you say.

    Only the heat of this one turned very quickly on to anti Trumpers, when faces involved with the white supremacists started getting recognised, and claims of white supremacy swiftly had to be back tracked to “the perpetrators of this disgusting stunt must apologise immediately”.

    The thing to ponder is, if the perpetrators had not been recognised and forced to confess (although even that comes across as a favour being done by the Lincoln project to protect the Democrat candidate), then the press and the establishment would be milking the “white supremacist” contingent on Youngkin’s campaign to the utmost, using it to smear Trump.

    The believability of this being perpetrated by the Lincoln Project, considered to be a false flag operation, in itself, of anti Trump Republicans (due to them being staunch allies of the establishment in all things that denigrate the 45 President) is something of a stretch. Their excuse, that Youngkin, like most people who actually listened to the speech, did not condemn Trump for saying that there were very fine white supremacists at Charlottesville, has zero credibility.

    Trump did not say this. Again, any casual viewing of the speech will prove this. He began by condemning all extremists, on the right and on the left, but also recognised that as well as these extremists, there were very fine people at Charlottesville campaigning on BOTH sides.

    The Lincoln Project, by using this totally debunked narrative, are invoking the flimsiest of possible excuses. So flimsy that it is rightly being considered to be a frantic attempt at coping with the Democrat’s “Trump as the devil” bandwagon being caught with it’s blood red hands firmly gripping a smoking gun, whilst standing over the corpse, in absolute confirmation of the depths they will go to to stop Trump and his allies.

    This is so potentially damaging to their cause, and possibly even the magical spell of suspended reality which democrats have managed to keep themselves under, that they are now having to denounce their RINO allies and demand they apologise for such rotten behaviour. I wonder how long that can last. The organiser is a Democrat activist “working for” the Lincoln project. But it is odds on that a link to the Democrat campaign will be established soon enough.

    After this, no claim of conspiracy can be dismissed so simply ever again.

    And don’t forget the attempt to involve black American’s in white supremacy. What a disgusting, racist act of despicable s**thousery by the Democrats, attempting to turn black Americans on each other.

    I look forward to everyone ignoring this post, as usual.

    Today may be another good day to ignore me.
     
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  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I’m not going to ignore it but can’t really see there’s a great deal to say. Crass political stunts during election campaigns are hardy a new phenomenon. And despite the implication of your post I can’t actually see any of those involved tried particularly hard to hide their identity. Plus putting it on a par with Jan 6th or the other FBI infiltration theories, crediting it to ‘the establishment’ and calling it a ‘false flag event’ is laughable in my view. It’s not in the same league as any of those events.

    The bit I do absolutely agree it seems to have backfired. Again though, that’s just the law of political campaigning at work. Pull a stunt and make your point and you stand to gain. Pull a stunt which backfires and it’s your opponent who gains. It’s a truth as old as the hills.

    Youngkin will probably edge a win in Virginia but not because of this. It’ll be because he’s run an effective campaign and because congressional Democrats lack the discipline of the Republicans when they get the reigns of power and so have achieved very little in recent months other than squabbling publicly.
     
  3. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    You have a point, and I would give it far more credibility if the slur was not built around the Charlottesville Speech canard, which is so demonstrably false as to be, literally, no excuse; Even for the Lincoln Project. Trump's speech is out there for everyone to hear, and his condemnation of all extremism is clear, as is his recognition that there are good people protesting on both sides; something that no Democrat can seem to bring themselves to say, because they see everyone that disagree with them as terrorists.

    The use of such a flimsy excuse rings far more of a panicy child's response to being caught out, as does the absurd idea that it is motivation for adult Never Trumper Republicans to attempt to sabotage an election that does not involve Trump, only someone who didn't condemn a speach that didn't happen.

    Why not demonstrate with Charlottesville banners?

    Why include a black American among the white supremacists? When so many black Americans have been accused of being the black face of whiye supremacy

    Why not demonstrate with 6 January banners showing the horror of the bloody insurrection?

    Why not turn up dressed as grannies with Capitol tour guides taking selfies? That would be far more in keeping with the current identification of Trump supporters.:)

    As I say, you have a point, but, like the Charlottesville speech, right now, it seems more like cope than a plan. It is the most plausible excuse available, even if it is not the most plausible reason. And if it can be called a false flag, that is because false flags seem very popular these days.
     
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  4. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    A note on establishment.

    Trump promised, very unsuccesfully, to drain the establishment swamp. Democrats, Republicans and all. His enemies come from all sides of the political divide, as is the case for anyone on an anti establishment ticket.

    The Lincoln Project are Republican anti Trumpers, and, whether you consider their actions here to be an open false flag protest of Trump condemning white supremacists and all extremists, or an attempt to protect the Democrat behaviour from being seen in the daylighti, it is clear that these Republican's are prepared to support and advance the Democrat cause on the flimsiest of excuses.

    Add to that FBI infiltrators, partisan courts, antifa walking free whilst trespassers are held without bail, and yes. Establishment would not appear to be the wrong word to use in describing those who are acting against him.

    Don't get me wrong. Trump is a d**k. But I believe he is magnitudes better than what the Dems are offerimg, both over and under the table.
     
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  5. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Seems the 'tiki torchers' were local democrat activists. Which makes the Lincoln Project cover story even less convincing than it was in the first place.

    I don't think that anyone can doubt that if the truth hadn't already got its booys on, this false flag operation (democrats posing as white supremacists in support of a Republican candidate), the lie would have been all around the world before anyone knew it was a stunt.

    The Lincoln Project took responsibility, but everyone involved were Democrat activists, and rather than them come out to celebrate their stunt, they have put their social media on private.

    But it was the Lincoln project.

    Yeah. OK. Primary school teachers project more like.
     
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