Poor People

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Davy Crockett, Dec 11, 2022.

  1. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Never mind about being poor
    Vote EU and you can live and be poor in 29 countries
    Freedom of movement ? For the few. Not the many .
    Plebs ? Just vote for the way the few benefit
    Useful idiots ? Back this up
    Over and out
    2 Stella's please
     
  2. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    A useful idiot votes against their own interests because they listen to the propaganda of those that really are benefitting.

    Brexit is the perfect example of that. FoM does now just benefit the few because several EU countries offer "Golden Visas". If you have enough money you can buy FoM.

    If you want to start a small business, study or just work in unskilled jobs as you travel around the continent then you are now stuffed.

    The poor, as well as most others, in this country are measurably worse off thanks to Brexit.

    The exceptions? The mega rich that can short the pound and the likes of Jacob Rees-Mogg who managed their Hedge Funds to benefit from the chaos in the UK market. Those people are laughing at us plebs.

    Anyone who claims to be on the side of the poor and also voted Brexit is a useful idiot unless they can demonstrate how those poor people are financially better off because of it.

    But this has already been fully discussed in the existing Brexit thread so I don't understand the need for another one.
     
  3. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Plebs vote to remain
    In the EU all are poor
    Post pub wisdom rules
     
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  4. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    The "Golden visa"
    FFS
    Have a word with yourself
    You are an embarrassment to your parents
     
  5. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Why would a poor pleb vote for the same ?
    Seems to me that you are an " I'm alright jack merchant"
     
  6. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Your lack of knowledge should be an embarrassment to you. Here is the Spanish version as an example. Buy a €500,000 property and you are in. Bad news for the poor you claim to care about while the rich few can carry with FoM if they want:

    https://www.citizenshipinvest.com/e...AaEndloFeJ4hmrMj2je0XdKpBKjMcdcAaAl9xEALw_wcB

    Useful idiot personified.
     
  7. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    In a haiku please.
     
  8. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

     
  9. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    You are an absolute idiot . No one . No where can afford a property.
    10/10 for stupidity tho
    Top of the class
     
  10. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Idiot
    No one anywhere . Can afford property
    However please let us all know where ,£50k properties are in abundance in EU land

    The floor is yours @Filbert .....
     
  11. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    That’s not a haiku.
     
  12. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    It's not an answer either
    Where are these 50k properties in EU land ?
    Just post a link . That will suffice
     
  13. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    No one? Sure the poor can't, but the rich?

    Of course the poor could get a place under Erasmus before Brexit. They could also go and pick crops or work in bars as they travelled around Europe. Not now and for what?

    What actual benefit have the poor that you claim to care about gained from Brexit. You seem to think it was a blow to "the man" but if the man has the money (and even the moderately wealth off do) they still have all the choices they ever had.

    There is only one useful (and drunk) idiot here and it ain't me.
     
  14. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Why are you going on about £50k properties? What has that got to do with anything?
     
  15. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Dunno mate. Don’t think anyone mentioned it but I’m sure you’re capable of googling it yourself.
     
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  16. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Because you are an idiot
    You don't care about those who are without
    You only pretend to care
    Where is this affordable housing in your beloved EU ?
     
  17. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Nice
    So you cannot coat me off then ?
    Anyway Google Right price €50 in Paris
    It gets you the same as it does in London
    Nuffink
     
  18. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Hey Syd ?
    You can't get the better of a drunk then ?
    Bad luck old fella
     
  19. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Wtf has that got to do with the EU or Brexit?

    Do you think that housing is going to become more affordable because of Brexit? If you do then you can explain exactly how otherwise you are talking ****.

    €500,000 properties are definitely there and affordable to the well off that want FoM, which is the actual point.
     
  20. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Eh? Where are the benefits for the poor from Brexit. Just one will do for now.
     
  21. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    No . Of course not . But I'm not the one selling snake oil
    In/out Its all **** .
     
  22. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    Sorry I’ve got absolutely no idea what you’re on about.
     
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  23. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I'm not selling Brexit you clown
    You are selling the EU
    They are all ****
    Which part don't you understand ?
     
  24. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    You just randomly introduced the availability of affordable housing and came up with £50k off the top of your head.

    It has nothing to do with being in or out of the EU.
     
  25. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    And that has come as no surprise to me
     
  26. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    So you didn't vote for or support Brexit?
     
  27. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Ok
    Fair point
    But how does someone get on the ladder be it in GB or the EU ?
    All markets are inflated
     
  28. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I vote for " meet the new boss , same as the old boss"
    I don't vote for , or buy, snake oil.
     
  29. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    I agree. But that is a separate discussion.
     
  30. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Well it's not really because it is all about those at the bottom getting shafted
    And those at the bottom , be it England France wherever, are being shafted. IMO .
     
  31. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    But do you not question your choice now it is clear that, other than the elite and the richest in society, we are all poorer for it?

    I understand the frustration of the "red wall". The massive increase in immigration without investment in infrastructure. The ridiculous cost of housing. The growing gap between rich and poor.

    But it is becoming more and more apparent that Brexit is making those things a lot worse and those at the top that campaigned for it are the only ones that are personally benefitting from it.
     
  32. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Again I agree. But Brexit is making it worse not better imho.

    The EU is far from perfect but it definitely is financially better for it's members to be in rather than out.

    How that wealth is divided amongst member's citizens is down to the individual governments. It is our government that has let us down and caused these massive wealth disparities not the EU.

    They played us by blaming the EU for decades but it's always been their responsibility.
     
  33. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    I agree with your first sentence. 100%.
    I also agree with your point about increasing the population without increasing the infrastructure. Again 100%.
    But I cannot agree on a benefit of being in the EU as opposed to being out
    To me . It is all the same . They are all politicians . None of them care
     
  34. Davy Crockett

    Davy Crockett Reservist

    Maybe @sydney_horn we shall have to agree to disagree but that we have far more in common than we may have 1st thought ?
     
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  35. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    It's almost a meme at this point.
     

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