Player Contracts

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by DrewH, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    I hear the delay is due to Gino and Scott arguing whether to offer 5 or 6 year deals!
     
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  2. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Can they not just compromise and offer a 56 year deal?
     
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  3. USAHornet

    USAHornet Academy Graduate

    Confused that there's unrest (admittedly on Twitter and driven by one person) about this.

    Deadline was yesterday. Club hasn't typically announced it immediately, it has generally been a few days later and sometimes only came through media reports. There's no requirement to publicise it. And it only affects a small number of players this year.

    I assume that they were rightly focused on the women's team being promoted.

    It's just more complaining for the sake of complaining, as opposed to focusing on something that matters as a grievance.
     
  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Funny thing is when they do announce the news he will be first to complain !
     
  5. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes - as I say we have 4 players out of contract of whom 2 at least will potentially get offered deals and a whole load of loans to go back.

    I think people are expecting us to release contracted players which we probably won't do unless it's someone like Gaspar.
     
  6. USAHornet

    USAHornet Academy Graduate

    Absolutely, at which point there will be griping that we are wasting money by paying/paying out players who won't then be playing football for us.

    I think the squad needs major work over the summer, and there is loads of uncertainty around a lot of players (including ones seemingly owned by Udinese whom we've thought of as ours, even if they really aren't), but this hostility about the list of players released seems to be about Cathcart and Cleverley, each of whom could sign a new contract with us anyway.
     
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  7. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Sure this is slightly in jest but I doubt their intention is to purposefully antagonise a fanbase, what do they have to gain?
    Cathcart isn’t 56 yet mate.
     
  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Mariappa's coming back ? Great news.
     
  9. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    That’s probably what drives it I guess because renewing Cleverley contract would be a catastrophic decision. This is our chance to stop him suckling at the teat, and if we don’t do it then Pozzo has learned nothing from his vast catalogue of mistakes.
     
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  10. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

  11. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    Not too bothered about any of this squad leaving, but I wouldn't have been against a one-year extension for Bacuna. Assuming he's happy to play a bit-part role and I thought he was OK.
     
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  12. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

  13. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

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  14. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

  15. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    He's got enough quality still to be a backup Championship striker somewhere, but in a side whose strikers will have to do a lot of running, he's unlikely to fit, it might be a belated piece of good planning by us
     
  16. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    We couldn't afford him.
     
  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  18. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Ashley Fletcher and Bayo are both coming back.

    Like two new signings.
     
  19. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Cathcart is a serviceable back up at this level. Provided the terms of the deal are right I dont really have an issue with it.

    Clevs getting renewed is hilarious but entirely expected.
     
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  20. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    The new Ross & Luther.
     
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  21. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Did cross my mind. Not necessarily that we couldn't afford him per se, more that he'll be wanting a certain level of contract as a senior pro with not many pay days left and we might have a lower budget for a 3rd/4th choice attacker.
     
  22. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Am I right in thinking Myles Roberts' contract is up this summer? Had an impressive loan at Welling, Manager's Player of the Season, and most 'Goals Prevented' (https://twitter.com/Vanarama/status/1660647478583083013?s=20) by miles (myles) in the division. 6th tier, but a decent showing. 21 now, so worth extending and trying for a League 2 loan?
     
  23. LaClusazSki

    LaClusazSki Reservist

    Will Watford ever learn?
    Cleverley and Cathcart should be released.
     
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  24. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    At the halfway point of the season I wouldn't have been against keeping Cathcart, but he's fallen off a cliff, and if we are going to be playing a style of football which requires a high line, Cathcart isn't going to be suited to that (nor are any of our CBs really, but that's by the by as none of them are about to become free agents!)
     
  25. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Don’t worry, our medical team will fix him up in no time.
     
  26. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    The whole team did to be fair. Even decent players like Joao looked pretty poor towards the end. I am sure age is a factor but so is playing for a rank side.

    Agree with a lot of that though. To be clear - I am not advocating for him to be renewed. I just struggle to object too much if he is given, for example a 1 year deal and is our 4th choice.
     
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  27. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Twitter crew getting in a right state over the lack of a retained /released list being made public .

    Not just Uncle Ron getting angry now.
     
  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Don't really get that myself, they don't have to do it immediately, I'd guess it's because we're still negotiating with our out of contract players. Of course, you are entitled to your own opinion of Cleverley and Cathcart getting contract renewals!
     
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  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I think some are expecting/hoping we are going to release loads of players,

    Not at best 4…
     
  30. ForzaWatford

    ForzaWatford Squad Player

    I’ll get pelters but I actually think Cleverly would be good in an Ismael team (whether he can stay fit or not is another question). He’s pretty much only good at running around, pressing like a headless chicken and getting the ball forward quickly, which is pretty much what we’ll be doing. Loves the club and is a good bloke too, which is more than can be said about half the team.
     
  31. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    It’ll have already been submitted to the EFL. It’s a meaningless list. We could say we’re releasing everyone one day and re-sign them the next.
     
  32. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I don't disagree with you but sadly I doubt he will be fit enough anymore :(
     
  33. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    He was good at running around. I don’t think we’ve seen him go faster than walking pace without getting hurt in the past 24 months. Time to let go.

    The money he likely earns/wants needs to be spent on somebody capable of being more than a good egg in the changing room, particularly when that good egg has already been there through the demise of our squad mentality and hasn’t been able to avert the steady match towards shambles-town.
     
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  34. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Might be ok on a pay as you play deal ?
     
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  35. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Anyone who genuinely thinks we should renew the contract of 34 year old, bow legged, permacrock Cleverley is a complete fool. It's really that simple.

    It's exactly the complete polar opposite of the direction this club now needs to take. Jesus, I know our fans can't let go, but try living in reality for a change and f**king move on.
     

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