[SOLD] Philip Zinckernagel

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  1. miserableoldgit

    miserableoldgit Reservist

    I agree
     
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  2. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Agreed. Think it's just a bit of a cliché that gets trotted out about lightweight attacking players. In reality, he'd have a lot less of the ball, fewer options once on it and better players trying to deprive him of it!
     
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  3. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Nowhere in my statement did I say we are Liverpool. You are just making a strawman argument.

    I am simply saying that even if a player isn't in our plan next season, that doesn't mean we should ship him out for next to nothing.

    Whether or not he is good enough for the PL, I don't know, but I do think he is worth more than £2m because there is clearly talent in there and we are in no need to sell (we are in the PL and he is on a long term deal).
     
  4. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    Think the referees do protect players a bit better than the championship but agree with the rest of it.

    After the first few weeks I didn't have an issue with his physicality, I thought he adapted to that pretty well. My bigger issue was actually his final ball wasn't great, but our whole attack had become a bit dysfunctional by the time he came into the side.
     
  5. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    We have nobody else in CM who we could reasonably expect an attacking output from. If we're about to sign a 10/winger who's better, then fine. But there are about a dozen players I'd look at first if we're trying to trim to squad.
     
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  6. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet First Year Pro

    There seems to be some momentum behind this possible transfer. This
    https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2...ye-move-for-watford-star-philip-zinckernagel/

    Interesting that some sloppy journalist is bigging up PZ7 a little bit though...

    "Nottingham Forest are considering a move for Watford forward Philip Zinckernagel, according to a report by Football Insider.
    The 26-year-old signed for the Hornets in January. He penned a five-and-a-half year contract and helped the club into the Premier League.
    Zinckernagel checked in from Bodo/Glimt and proved a real hit. He made 21 appearances for Xisco Munoz’s team, scoring four goals and claiming five assists."


    Impressive stats indeed from January. Appearances? Yup, tick. Assists? Yeah 5. Err 4 goals...well I remember that tap in from the edge of the 6 yard box with the Bristol keeper AWOL and...? Perhaps the journalist, Lee Clarke, has just received his marching orders from Matt Hancock's Communications Team and can't quite get used to applying the truth yet!
     
  7. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    "....considering a move...."
     
  8. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I'd like him to stay, wouldn't be devastated if he left, but he's better than Forest. £2m is peanuts too, he'd be worth much more than that to us
     
  9. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    On Twitter the suggestion was it might be a loan move.

    Wouldn't so much faith in him either way tbh.
     
  10. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    They seem set to sell Joe Worrall this summer, though he wouldn't command a massive fee.
     
  11. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    My guess is that we can't offload the useless players like Success, so we have to sell the next band up like Wilmot and Zinckernagel.
     
  12. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Wilmot was always going to be surplus to requirements regardless of whoever we bought or sold.

    Zinckernagel it will depend on the size of the fee and who else we can bring in for that position. If we can bring in someone like Olise or Yangel Herrera then Zinc would probably be available if a decent offer came in.
     
  13. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Been told by 2 people I've asked today that we have no intention of letting him go. Forest may well be interested - but for our side of things, I think you can firmly place this one under 'not happening'.

    I suspect he will be given a chance - and if it doesn't look like he can get to grips with the PL, he will be shipped off to Udinese.
     
  14. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Joe Worrall was linked with Burnley wasn't he? Well they've just signed Collins from Stoke so maybe they won't be in the market for another CB
     
  15. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Last I saw he was linked with Brentford.
     
  16. PotGuy

    PotGuy Forum Fetishist

    Zero benefit to us, would command a low fee and he is needed in the squad

    Can't see it happening, even if he isn't that good
     
  17. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I thought he played well against us at the Vic. Showed extremely good pace when up against Sarr.
     
  18. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    We never really saw his full asset last season - he looked hungry and had a nice turn of pace. Just the one goal (tap in against Bristol City) but his overall contribution was pretty impressive when we did
    see him for more than ten minutes each game. I cannot see him leaving, not yet anyway. He is probably going to want to try to impress the "big clubs" first, and if we have a decent first season back in the
    Premiership, there is no reason he cannot attract a larger side - if we decide to let him go for whatever reason.
     
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  19. lutonh8a

    lutonh8a Squad Player

    I don't think we should be letting him go unless we are getting someone better on the right as back up for Sarr. But even then he can play in multiple positions. Additionally he is way better than Forest.
     
  20. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I never want to see his full asset.
     
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  21. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Not good enough for the chumpionship, but you people think he will somehow magically be good enough for the premier league?

    Baffling.

    Take what we can get and get rid of him, and bring in some mad foreigns who are actually good at football.

    Clinging on to this godawful squad will see us relegated.
     
  22. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Zinckernagel is possibly the best player I've ever seen in a Watford shirt.
     
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  23. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Yes, he clearly earned the right to be not good enough in the prem
     
  24. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    If we get £2,5m for him we could use the Sancho money to buy Troy's burgers for next season then splash the Zinkernagel money on condiments....happy days!!
     
  25. Gromit

    Gromit Academy Graduate

    That's your opinion and you are welcome to it.

    I wholeheartedly disagree with you however.
     
  26. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

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  27. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Long live #Jokerposting
     
  28. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    I was being ironic
     
  29. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    Hi Troy
     
  30. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Wobby now reporting Forest's interest. We are not against the idea of a loan. Same article says we are probably happy to loan out Baah, but not until Jan.
     
  31. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    If Zinckernagel goes we get relegated.

    It really is as simple as that.
     
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  32. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Gash. Get rid. Gash.
     
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  33. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Has this terd been flushed yet?
     
  34. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Off to Forest on a season long loan according to AL. Announced this weekend.
     
  35. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    He'll be an excellent addition for them.

    Our squad is just too big to keep everyone.
     
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