Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Stuey, Jun 25, 2018.

  1. Happy bunny

    Happy bunny Cheered up a bit

    Why penalise Senegal? This is a club issue.
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  2. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Gino is more powerful than we ever imagined.
  3. Indeed we are finding the most ingenious ways to get our AFCON players out on the pitch. Glad Marseille have played along. I''m hearing Sarr has also made a miraculous recovery so Dennis, Sarr & Gueye to start tomorrow.
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    It really isn’t. It’s a player and agent issue. He should be banned for signing about 10 different deals. Should have happened years ago. I guess the paperwork got lost in a drawer.
  5. Indeed. I'm hearing the issue is that he's due to play for Senegal, Nigeria and Egypt in these finals. Plus Poland in the World Cup.
  6. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    They're just caught in the crossfire, but since the player was already away from his club and the club wasn't benefitting from him, I can't understand why they didn't sit on the suspension until Senegal's time in the tournament was done. Just plain weird really.
  7. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Because it’s the player being sanctioned rather than his club? FIFA suspensions from footballing activity are absolute. Plus there’s an argument Senegal aren’t caught in the crossfire - they’re gaining from a player who appears regularly for Marseille who allegedly shouldn’t be.
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  8. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He was acting like a ***** when he thought he could just unilaterally tear up a contract and sign for another club. Now the chickens have come home to roost, actually quite proud of the club here.
  9. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    Surely for Pareguey?!
  10. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    It’s what GT would have wanted.
  11. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    I'm waiting for Chris Sutton to wade in with his unresearched opinion.
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  12. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Yes, it's aimed at the player, but they could have acted on this years ago at this point. The national team are collateral damage that didn't need to happen. Why now instead of weeks ago, so they could call someone else up? Why not ban him right after Senegal are done, given the call up period is over? The choice here was a) impact player, club and nation or b) impact player and club. Since only the latter two are implicated in potential wrongdoing, that seems by far the better solution given how much water already has passed under this particular bridge.

    Senegal might well be benefitting from Gueye being at Marseilles (although I reckon that's almost impossible to quantify one way or another), but given that they had nothing to do with the way things have shaken out in terms of the club contract and have been put in a bad position through no real fault of their own, I don't see it holds much relevance even if they have benefitted from it.

    It would perhaps be another thing if this situation had arisen fairly recently, but this is year after the fact and it really didn't require action this week, particularly not when the club already has a beef with Senegal. 3 years is a heck of a long time in a footballer's career and it defies reason that this is still dragging on, really, especially when it's now impacting third parties who aren't at fault on this issue.
  13. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Hope he sues us, and in a landmark ruling, football's restrictions on players not just giving a month's notice to move clubs is deemed illegal and the whole transfer system is destroyed.
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  14. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    It could be because a ruling was issued today/in the last few days. It wouldn’t be right to suspend him while whatever procedure/litigation as ongoing.

    Also it’s not 3 years - it’s since June 2020.
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  15. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Reservist

    Darth Senegal tried to strike him down
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  16. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Well this is most pleasing.
  17. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    This is satire right?
  18. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    An Amazon show on us would’ve been the greatest programme ever made.
  19. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    can you imagine. Scott and Gino sitting in an office, ‘so a couple of weeks ago we successfully angered the whole of Nigeria, this week we are taking down Senegal!’
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  20. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Reservist

    Is it possible to piss off the entire continent before the tournament is over?
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  21. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Was going by the date in the tweet tbh, but whether 3 years or just under 2, FIFA has had ample time to act by now without suddenly imposing a sanction in the middle of a tournament.
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  22. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    Just wait until Gino helicopters into a Morocco game and drags Masina and Louza off the pitch at gunpoint, before flying off.
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  23. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Can't find the ruling anywhere, but can't think of many other examples where FIFA have banned someone from all football because of a contract dispute so presume our case is very strong. The reports make it sound like perhaps there hasn't been a full ruling yet which would surely make it even more unusual for them to take this step.

    Looks like this is the page that FIFA releases rulings but also that they tend to do them in batches every few months: https://www.fifa.com/legal/football-tribunal
  24. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Of course it's strong, the Pozzos do business properly!
  25. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    I'd agree it seems unlikely that they'd ban someone ahead of a ruling unless the case seemed rock solid. That said, it begs the question of why act pre-emptively at all, really. They're just making a potential rod for their own back...and I'm sure they're aware of that (FIFA are nothing if not good at looking out for themselves), which makes it seem even more likely that this looks like a watertight case for them.
  26. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    That's why I was looking for the ruling, I assumed it's a decision but is being misreported as a suspension pending investigation...
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  27. Robert Peel

    Robert Peel Reservist

    Bet we get £3m compensation from Marseille so we can pay Gray to play for QPR for a few more months
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  28. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    I’m so confused, was this then one we apparently didn’t even bother turning up for the hearing for, and now this?
  29. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Some chat on Twitter saying that L'Equipe reckon he's been suspended for six months but that Marseille will try to come to an amicable agreement with us. Unfortunately original article is behind a French paywall so can't say whether that's an accurate summary.
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  30. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Just for sh1ts and giggles, let’s just presume we are, for once, in the right over one of these litigation matters….

    What on earth were Gueye and his new ‘agent’ thinking? Just randomly deciding you don’t like the contract you signed so unilaterally signing one somewhere else!
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  31. Maybe a clear open and shut case and our management team were too busy trying to bring in 237 new signings :)
  32. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Hopefully we don't reach an amicable agreement and take them to the cleaners
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  33. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    There's little he can complain about. He was an adult that signed a contract, and a very good one by the sounds of it.

    Odd timing though.
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  34. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Mirror have suggested we were going to pay him 45k a week!

    That seems awfully high for what would have been a young player from the second division of France!
  35. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Why do all the articles say we sold him to Marseille 17 hours later? That’s not really what happened is it?
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