[RUMOUR] Non Home Grown

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by neverforgetboxingday, Aug 2, 2022.

  1. neverforgetboxingday

    neverforgetboxingday Academy Graduate

    If RE really only wants 11 NHG players in his squad, who goes?

    Gaspar
    Louza
    Manaj
    Pedro
    Sema
    Kamara
    Asprilla
    Bayo
    Sarr
    Dennis
    Kabasele
    Sierralta
    Okoye
    Kayembe
    Samir
    Kalu
    Dahlberg

    l make it 6 have to go sold or loan assuming we only bring further HG players in this window.
     
  2. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    11 won’t happen. Around 13 would be a good result. Dahlberg, Samir, Dennis and Sarr all to go. If we kept one of Dennis/Sarr, then Kalu instead.
     
  3. I think Kalu and Dahlberg certainly.
    Controversially I think Okoye was bought for the future and won't sit on the bench due to HG rules so will go out on loan til Jan for first team experience.
    Samir will go.
    Dennis or Sarr will go (or both)
    Maybe we will accept 12 or even 13 as one or two will always be injured/suspended etc.
     
  4. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    An interesting way of looking at it is that there were 11 in the squad, and then Okoye, Louza and Gaspar still to come in. All the others will leave. So if we want to get down to 11, we’d need to jettison 3 from last night’s squad. If one of Sarr/Dennis leave (which is what I’m expecting) then that’s 13. Who else would be leaving? Kabasele, Kayembe, Asprilla (on loan) and Sema would be candidates but it looks like RE is quite partial to each of them.

    So I agree that sticking with 13 and then factoring on injuries/suspensions and even having Okoye out of the squad when not in the XI seems the way to go.
     
  5. Stuey

    Stuey Reservist

    Gaspar - keep
    Louza - keep
    Manaj - keep
    Pedro - keep
    Sema - keep
    Kamara - keep
    Asprilla - keep
    Bayo - keep
    Sarr - sell
    Dennis - sell
    Kabasele - keep
    Sierralta - keep
    Okoye - loan
    Kayembe - keep
    Samir - sell
    Kalu - loan
    Dahlberg - loan
    Everyone else - loan/sell

    If we keep Dennis and/or Sarr I'd offload Sema but I think we'll have 12-13 non HG which we'll have to manage.
     
  6. Leighton Buzzer

    Leighton Buzzer Reservist

    I thought the idea was to kick racism out of football, not to encourage or mandate it.
     
  7. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Kalu,
    Dahlberg,
    Samir,
    Okoye.

    Keep Sarr and Dennis.

    If adamant that you can only have 11 and no more, bin off Sema and Kabasele. Or Kayembe should we be able to get a HG centre-mid through the door.

    Add:
    HG LCB
    HG CM
    HG GK

    This is obviously the optimal situation!
     
  8. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    What do you do with Okoye? Just bin him off? Or loan him somewhere?
     
  9. He needs to be playing so surely loan him off but only til Jan initially in case Bachmann needs replacing. Makes no sense for him to be on the bench using up a HG space.
     
  10. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Why not just keep him around and he’ll either play or be outside of the squad?
     
  11. Because unless Bachmann makes a series of errors he will get no game time. It makes no sense to buy a promising young keeper who played well in the top Dutch league in his early 20s and have him sitting around the club not even in the matchday squads, just in case Bachmann is dropped. Just my view of course but I think he needs to be playing regularly in a decent league.
     
  12. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Reports from the Wobby/the Athletic have suggested that our Gk department isn’t quite that hierarchical and that the competition for the number 1 journey is ongoing, even if Bachmann is the incumbent. As we’ve seen with Dahlberg you can send a goalie on loan and still have them stuck on the bench.
     
  13. I guess the club would say that wouldn't they though ! I bet Okoye isn't part of the matchday squad between now and the end of the year other than any cup games.
    Yes we ruined Dahlberg, still, at least he got to sit on a bench :)
     
  14. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    Samir, Kalu, Dahlberg go, leaving us with 14. Okoye could go on loan to take it to 13. That feels fine.

    Sarr and/or Dennis take it down to 11 if they go, or Kaba/Sema could go if we bring in an extra HG CB/LWB.

    Louza is already missing for a while and Sema, Gaspar, Bayo, Manaj, Asprilla etc might just have to take it in turns to miss out on the bench. JP becomes HG in January so it will soon ease further.
     
  15. neverforgetboxingday

    neverforgetboxingday Academy Graduate

    My preference would be Samir, Kalu, Dahlberg permanent, Asprilla & Bayo loans, keeping 12. Must keep Okoye to challenge for #1 spot.
     
  16. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Dennis will be sold, I just cant see anybody coming in for Sarr based on his form at the end of last season for the money we are asking.
    Dahlberg loaned out again unless he pushes for a move.
    I thought Samir was leaving?
    Kalu will be loaned out I imagine.
    If Pedro plays like he did last night for the next month I can see someone coming in for him to be honest.
    Aspilla will be in the squad, too much potential at this level to be loaned out.

    I cant see any of the others leaving to be honest but that depends on if we get some HG incomings I suppose. Laird and Clarke look quite plausible loan targets. If Clarke comes in I can see one of Kabs or Sierralta being shown towards the exit.
     
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    We need to build a team around Kalu and Bayo
     
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  18. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    He's a dud. Bin him off back to Holland.
     
  19. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    No way should Sierralta be binned.
     
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  20. Heidar

    Heidar Reservist

    And yet it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. If that rumour appears I might chain myself to the goalpost with a shirt saying "Just Keep Sierralta". He's so good because he only plays it simple. A defender should always defend first and think about playing football second - something our other CBs need to learn.
     
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  21. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Problem is we need someone to want these miscellaneous unwanted duds.

    If the club are really serious about making sure they adhere to this rule this season in the strictest way possible and to the way Edwards seems to want, then some may need forced out or paid off.

    Otherwise Edwards ‘all in this together’ modus operandi may not get off the ground with sulky players sitting around not getting close to squads.

    I just can’t see who is going to want Kalu, Dahlberg etc. Hardly covered themselves in glory over the past year or 2.

    If we keep Sarr and Dennis, there’s a decent chance we could have Bayo, Okoye, Kabasele, Dahlberg, Kalu all sitting around this year doing naff all.
     
  22. ThePaperBoy

    ThePaperBoy Academy Graduate

    Be better off building it around Rose - would cover far more ground

    #Fattest #Bodyshaming #WhatDoICareNobodyCalledMeNice #SulkingLikeA4YearOld
     
  23. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I was a bit surprised to see Kabasele start last night, he did fine, but he strikes me as being the most expendable of the three CBs because of his NHG status (and general brainlessness!). Naturally Gaspar comes into the squad, but I wonder if he goes to RCB instead of Kabasele (or maybe even of course the Hertfordshire-raised WTE!). Kalu will probably stay by virtue of being forgotten by everyone including us, but I think Dahlberg will get suitors at some level, didn't he almost go to St Johnstone? There were 2 L1 clubs who were interested enough to sign him (at the bottom of the table admittedly, but regular football is the most important thing)
     
  24. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    I think goalkeepers and defenders would want to be loaned to teams nearer the bottom of tables as they get more practice maybe? WTE would be out the door before Kabs, HG or not.
     
  25. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Well it depends, there's a difference between getting peppered with shots left right and centre compared to what Bachmann has had to deal with in the Championship, and of course the higher you are in the pyramid, the more likely that your manager will demand more of you with the ball at your feet
     
  26. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    No chance Bayo gets loaned out
     
  27. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Why not? It'd be the ultimate Pozzo bullsh*t deal.

    Signs for another club for £1m, we instantly sign him for £5m, then we loan him out a few weeks later, probably back to the club he came from.

    Perfection.
     
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  28. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    But Rob personally requested him. Haven't you listened to Duxbury's interview?;)
     
  29. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    All the while Dennis leaves on deadline day without a replacement lined up
     
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  30. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Bayo and Manaj are the replacements.
     
  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Bayo has gone on loan to Cercle Brugge in this scenario!
     
  32. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Is there an U21 rule in the championship?
    If so then Pedro, Asprilla could fall into that category
     
  33. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    There is for squad registration purposes, but they’re still non-HG with regards to the matchday ‘rule of 11’.
     
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  34. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    In which case you go with 13
    Someone will always be injured or suspended
    The bigger problem is going to have 25 man squad plus U21s
     
  35. Moosedog

    Moosedog Reservist

    I think Pedro becomes HG in January
     

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