[NOT HAPPENING] Nat Phillips

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by hornetboy1, Jan 6, 2022.

  1. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Please oh lord tell me this is true
  2. sdc_watford

    sdc_watford First Year Pro

    Just signed on loan for Bournemouth.
  3. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Not signed yet, but rumours.

    I can't blame the Pozzos for not spending £15m we don't have on improving the team. But if they miss out on a target, who is available for loan, to a Championship club, then they really aren't trying hard enough.
  4. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

  5. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I put it in another 'transfer window' thread - Sky are reporting he is having a medical this afternoon, with a deal agreed.

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  6. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    They are having a brilliant final day transfer window.
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  7. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Surprised to see one of the 5 further players they expect to bring in includes longtime wfcforums rumour-darling Siriki Dembele. And people claim they're not our cast-iron, died-in-the-wool, deaths-whenever-we-clash rivals.
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  8. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    No better than Cathcart, WTE, Sierralta or Kabasele.


    Gino Pozzo
  9. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    We keep trying to bid for Liverpool players and they offer us stupid valuations. I wonder why?

    Who knew that and selling Zielinski to Napoli for less than Liverpool offered because our board thew a hissy fit would come back to bite us?

    Yet another instance of someone who don't want to deal with the ******* clowns on our board throwing their toys out of the pram.
  10. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

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  11. Heidar

    Heidar Reservist

    Bournemouth hoovering up more of Liverpool's rejects for the price of Salah.

    That's Solanke, Ibe and Phillips.
  12. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Which members of our board are on Udinese's board?

    I'm not being obtuse, I know there's a family link at the very top, but I should think for all sorts of legal, regulatory and football rules reasons the two are pretty separate.
  13. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    I was referring more to the football decision making "board" rather than Directors under the Companies Act or the Italian equivalent (as I dont have any great insight into either structure).

    They have long said there is a 3 person decision making process - Pozzo, Giraldi (now Giaretta) and Duxbury - when it comes to sporting decisions.

    Given the petulance over Zielinski (an Udinese decision) happened as a result of Liverpool wanting too much for Jerome Sinclair (a Watford decision), I think it difficult to argue that the decision making body is ultimately the same in practice.
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  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    You've described the Watford structure there though. Duxbury has nothing to do with Udinese's sporting decisions.

    I suppose on the bigger point I don't really see it as that likely that Liverpool are driving a harder bargain for us on Phillips because of a bit of hard nosed business on both sides 5 years ago. Surely?

    Plus Liverpool offer everyone stupid valuations for their fringe players and that's most likely because they have a track record of getting them.
  15. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    No excuse for this available to Pozzo. Useless.
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  16. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    This is beyond a joke, how has the penny still not dropped for our clowns in charge when a Championship club are strengthening their defence more then we are.

    He’s really going all in on a 74 year old being able to work an actual miracle.
  17. barely1egal

    barely1egal Reservist

    I dont know what role Duxbury does / doesn't have regarding Udinese, but both Pozzo and Giraldi clearly had significant influence over what is going to at Udinese at the time. I don't think losing money to spite someone over a U23 player was really hard nosed business - it was frankly just petulant. In the end of the day, Watford still had to pay £4m for Jerome Sinclair and Udinese lost money on Zielinski.

    They aren't driving a hard bargain with Bournemouth though. Maybe it is unrelated - none of us can know. I suppose I just think it feeds into the impression I have that the way the decision makers conduct themselves puts clubs and agents off doing business with us.
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  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Wait until midnight mate. There’ll be a few on here willing to offer up some excuses for him. Same ones we have been hearing for weeks.
  19. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Reservist

    That circus has its own clown
  20. leavesdenorn

    leavesdenorn Academy Graduate

    Deffo and they're getting Cantwell from Narwich
  21. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford Reservist

    Dumbfounded. Excellent bit of business done by Bournemouth.
  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Maybe Liverpool didn’t want to loan to a PL club otherwise sure there would have been a few takers ?

    Seems a strange move otherwise unless there is some sort of permanent deal connected to the loan ?
  23. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Why is everybody upset about a 24 year old defender with 34 first team appearances to his name
  24. Heidar

    Heidar Reservist

    Exactly. He's going to the Championship because he's not PL quality. There's a reason Klopp was so panicked about having to play him.
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  25. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    And he probably would have been rubbish playing in our defence soon enough !
  26. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Given the circumstances, I'd bet Bournemouth have an obligation to buy at a stupid price if they get promoted, likely the overpriced value Liverpool want.
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  27. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    You've watched us play, right?
  28. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    Because we have worse ones who have far more appearances and have proved they aren’t up to it?

    At least Phillips are proved himself at PL level in his few performances. Sierralta has played a similar amount of games at a similar age and has done no such thing - and yet many claim him to be our best CB.

    Pretty obvious why people are angry that we seem to be underplaying the need for better defenders once more.
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  29. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Because Craig Cathcart and William Troost Ekong, not sure if you’re familiar with their work.

    Gino (supposedly) bid £7m for Phillips, which is probably more than what we’ve spent on our entire defence combined over the past 10 years, so it’s probably a fair indicator he might just be slightly better then what we’ve got, you know the defence that haven’t kept a clean sheet all season.
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  30. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    I see Knight is busy sowing the seeds for defending the indefensible. Sigh.
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  31. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    I wasn’t sure about Phillips but if he was identified as a target and we did bid £7m+ for him, it’s baffling that we were unable to get him in on loan.
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  32. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    As I said earlier, if it indeed is true that we made offers, then the only conclusion I can arrive at is that Liverpool and/or the player have major reservations about us as a club and the way we are performing.

    I think our defence is in such a state of disrepair that any half-decent player we may look at buying may balk at the idea of being part of it or the pressure of being seen as the player to improve it. When you add to that the addition of a fairly 'industrial' manager in Hodgson, I just think the whole thing has maybe gone beyond the point of coming back.
  33. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Seems that Simon Jones reported that the player just wanted assurances of game time given how little he has played through his career. Not sure if that reflects as badly on us as you suggest. But we could/should have been more persuasive.
  34. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Surely out of all the teams he could join we could guarantee him more game time than us? Look who he’s up against.
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2022
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  35. folkestone orn

    folkestone orn Squad Player

    Watford (clap,clap,clap)

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