Max Gradel

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by TomH, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. fuzzy73

    fuzzy73 Squad Player

    Where it's always been. In Shangri-La along with Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Raffaele Riva

    Never stop believing, that's when the magic stops
     
  2. Irishorn

    Irishorn Gael Force

    Possitivity! (Is that a word?). Anyway, I welcome the optimistic tone. There is a gloomy outlook by many on the forum at the moment. I am going over to the West Ham game next month with a (possibly illogical) sense of hope. A 3-1 win with Gradel scoring one and providing the assist for Zarate for another, with Success setting up Deeney for the insurance score. Meanwhile, Ighalo makes his debut for his new Chinese masters, following on from the big money move.
     
  3. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    In the case of Gradel, I don't think it will be a short term signing. It's a player they wanted in the past, and have an opportunity to sign now, at a much lower price. If they pay £3m, then the contract will probably be at least 2.5 years, if not longer.

    Zarate, if we sign him, is clearly a stop gap just to get us through the season, because of the Pereyra injury. The club have money and would spend it on the right player, like Boufal, but in the absence of that, they have to do the next best thing. Look at who is available on loan for a remainder of the season. That list would be relatively small and it's not as easy as many people think to get quality through the door for the right price.

    I don't think anyone will be jumping in excitement over Zarate, but he offers something no one else does in the current available squad, so would make sense.
     
  4. HornetHopefuls

    HornetHopefuls Academy Graduate

    We have gone from signing the likes of Peryra and being linked to good players to taking a gamble on a player like Gradel, personally i would rather spend 3 mill on lansbury than gradel.
     
  5. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Aren't Gradel and Lansbury completely different players though?

    Who says we're not going after good players still? Just because it's not being reported on tw@tter doesn't mean the powers that be aren't hard at work.

    15 mill on one good signing when we need to fill several positions?
     
  6. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    We got Cleverely instead of Lansbury, who is a much better player IMO. Gradel is a completely different player to Lansbury as he plays on the wing.

    A more realistic comparison would be recalling Berghuis instead of signing Gradel, as both play wide on the right. That would be a better debate.
     
  7. HornetHopefuls

    HornetHopefuls Academy Graduate

    So filling positions of players that are out injured with players that are always injured makes sense?Plus we have cleverley on loan with option to buy, there is nothing wrong with loaning players and then buying a player for a fair sum of money. I dont believe it is worth spending 3 mill on Gradel i think we should do the same as Cleverley, then if he is no good or injured alot we haven't wasted money.
     
  8. Cassetti's Beard

    Cassetti's Beard First Team

    Huh? I never said that? Was merely pointing out that Gradel and Lansbury are completely different players, it's not really a like for like alternative. We've also signed Cleverley so I can't really see where Lansbury would fit in.
     

  9. Yes, lets DEMAND that Bournemouth loan him to us.

    They need us much more than we need them.
     
  10. HornetHopefuls

    HornetHopefuls Academy Graduate

    Yeah that's fair enough they aren't the same player. i think to go from a good signing like Cleverley to Gradel i just think we could get better players than that.
     
  11. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    thats cheap and has played in England in the past !
     
  12. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Not read the whole thread, but can't see how this can be a bad signing. If £3m on a 3 year deal, he fills a HG slot for what is, essentially, cigarette money in Premier League terms.

    If we have someone with pace to bring off the bench and inject some urgency into our pedestrian attacks, when chasing games, at the very least, that has got to make him worthwhile.

    I'm sure we'd all prefer to be signing £25m world beaters but needs must and a pacy forward who knows the division, doesn't mean we have to lose a player from the squad and also brings a quality we sorely lack - looks like a slam dunk to me.
     
  13. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    What this thread shows is that some people place far too much expectation on us! This season is about staying up and becoming established in this league. At the moment that is in some danger, I'm not saying we are in a relegation battle yet but we need to start picking up points again.

    As a stop gap this signing makes a lot of sense.
     
  14. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    If it's £3m and is HG it's a no brainer, if he turns out to be sh!t then we can simply sell him to Derby or Sheffield Wednesday.
     
  15. nornironhorn

    nornironhorn Administrator Staff Member

    Would be happy at this, Don't understand the negativity surrounding this one

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  16. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    It does beg the question as to why he doesn't fit that role for Bournemouth who play in that style as a norm, not in terms of game chasing.

    Anyone heard anything?
     
  17. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Because they have other pacy attackers? We don't.
     
  18. TomH

    TomH First Year Pro

    Outside looking in would just seem that others have stepped up and taken their chance like Fraser recently. A bit like Mings I guess, they spent a lot of money on him and after a long injury last season he only got his first start for them at the weekend I believe.
     
  19. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Looked decent every time I've seen him for muff.

    Direct and pacey with end product. Would be happy with this one
     
  20. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    £3m for someone we wanted to pay £6 or £7m for a couple of years ago, ok before his CKL, is a good deal

    Benefits of homegrown and pace

    worth a punt
     
  21. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    I assume Berghuis doesn't want to come back, as I agree he would be a far superior player to a limited journeyman like Gradel.
     
  22. another_mrlizard

    another_mrlizard Squad Player

    WD Sport ‏@WDSport_ · 19 mins ago

    Source: no interest in "crock" Gradel, or "Nut Bag" Zarate. Berahino a real target.
     
  23. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    Desperation mode engaged.
     

  24. There's always one beacon of optimism shining through the gloom.
     
  25. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Considering we currently have unfilled HG squad slots and 3 million is back-of-the-sofa money in Premier League terms, it's a completely sane transfer.

    If it doesn't work out we just turn around and sell him to one of our B teams in the Championship for a nice profit.
     
  26. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Can't see Gradel is any upgrade on Anya.
     
  27. Beekayess

    Beekayess Reservist

    Yup. And he scored an own goal ....... :sign13:
     
  28. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Given Derby paid £4m for Anya I'm quite happy with swapping him for Gradel and £1m.
     
  29. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Thinking about it, it could be that Gradel just wants to join a bigger, better club. Bournemouth are a small team with a small ground and the stadium is in a horrible area, I can totally understand Max wanting to leave and join us.

    I expect an exodus from that League 1 level side soon. This won't be the first.

    We could even.......

    Cherrypick their players.
     
  30. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    No but a realistic suggestion would be Robbie Brady currently at Norwich, Left sided midfielder and under 30.
     
  31. Bournemouth Dom

    Bournemouth Dom First Year Pro

    That would be a very good signing
     
  32. Hornpete

    Hornpete Squad Player

    If we are relying on second grade injured Bournemouth cast offs, regardless how cheap, we can use him ourselves in the championship next year.
     
  33. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    How much would he be though? £15 million? More? I suspect if Norwich were to sell there'd be a bidding war with quite a few mid-table Premier League teams involved. We can't pay that much for every signing, we need to take the odd gamble.
     
  34. Mighty Mo

    Mighty Mo Reservist

    Considering his new role, I would have thought that Kevin A has this spot on.
    I wouldn't mind Gradel if he is fit and has his pace, although if he had I can't see Sir Eddie selling him particularly as he really fought hard to re-sign him.
    Zarate is not one for me.
    Berahino is worth a punt.
     
  35. Hairyfrog

    Hairyfrog Squad Player

    Don't know until you ask though do you.
     

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