Great post Malteser. People view change very differently and some people do not like change at all. Anyway I thought the whole point of having a forum is to air your views. If you have any negative or positive comments for discussion - this is the perfect place to talk about it. Good point about Connor Smith too, it's good to see Zola giving him a chance.
I want us to be a feeder club, send Garner, Yeates and Forsyth to Granada or Udinese...just keep them as far away from the Vic as possible.
Marco Cassetti @CassettiMarco · 19h 19 hours ago Very very happy to see watford fc at the top of the championship Legend
It'll be bittersweet if we are promoted this season without Cassetti and the likes of Almunia, Hogg and Chalobah. They really did deserve it.
I'd argue not often so in sport where your destiny is in your own hands the vast majority of the time. They had 90 minutes to do it. In fact twice they did. And hard as it is to admit it they failed.
Apparently all the players (especially Troy) are still very close to Jean Alain Fanchone, who calls them after every game.
Except Chalobah who disappeared too often when the going got tough, including Wembley. As other clubs have discovered since. And I don't care that he was only 18 - my mates and I played with more bottle in a local league when we were 16......
Yes because Sunday league football and playing Championship level football and a massive game at Wembley are entirely comparable. Idiot.
Natural ability has nothing to do with attitude or bottle. Who said anything about Sunday league - it's why the Luke O'Niens and Bernard Mensahs are sent to teams in lower leagues to face men in competitive football. I was using an analogy anticipating the usual "Nates only a kid argument" He's more of the attitude of a Matthew Briggs than a Lloyd Doyley. That's my point. So, which of our current midfield would you choose to ditch for Chalobah? I'd rather stick with those brought into the current squad. Especially considering his £30k plus a week wages.
If someone offered me both on a permanent transfer, I'd choose Chalobah over Tozser at the moment. Doubt there's a huge difference in their goals/assists, and we know that Chalobah performed well with us.
Perhaps, but we've actually got a fair few players in the team who I feel show leadership qualities. Gomes, Cathcart, Munari, Deeney... Then you also have the likes of Abdi and Ighalo who lead by example, rather than being particularly vocal. If we had the option, I'd take both. Out of the two of them, though, it'd be Chalobah for me. I still think he could have a good future if he gets out of Chelsea. At the moment he's a nomadic loan player who, as soon as he plays badly, is out of the team because they're (understandably) more interested in their performance than his development. Get a permanent move and I think he'll flourish again. Preferably to us, when we get promoted this summer. Anyway, probably a bit off topic now!
Is he? Watson seems to do all the talking in midfield and I honestly can't remember the last time I saw Tozser dominate the midfield in terms of winning his tackles and headers. His immobility has really been evident in the second half of the season and he gives it away more than anyone instead of being the composed holding player we know he can be.
What are you basing this on? It seems many on here think Chalobah is an arrogant footballer who thinks he has already made it simply based on the fact he accepted Chelsea's contract offer..
Given the ridiculous wedge they put him on, he's going nowhere and most definitely not to us. Well, unless he's willing to take an enormous paycut...but I don't see that happening.
Toszer is the first player we've had for a long time who I think may score a free kick if we get one.
Tozser can play the Chalobah role better than Chalobah. Seriously though, Tozser has been poor for some time. Not sure if he's carrying s niggling injury but he doesn't look fit.
To be fair I don't think he really suited Boro and Forest's style of play (can't be fun playing under Billy Davies) and he seems to be doing alright at Reading (not sure if they hoof it or not). I'd blame poor player management from whoever at Chelsea accepted their loan offers rather than Chalobah's attitude.
He did well at Boro, they played nice football. Also, aside from Forest, every loan move he's had has been because of a Chelsea connection.. Zola, then Karanka (Mourinho's understudy at Real) and Steve Clarke (was Chalobah's youth coach at Chelsea)
Forgot about Burnley, that was an awful choice He didn't even get used there, even when they had no other centre mids available, they played wingers in the middle instead
