Loanees Thread

Cukur sounds absolutely rancid. Recall him and send him to the National League, this can't be doing anything for his confidence.

 

Admittedly Lo-Everton isn't tearing up the National League, if you'd told me in the summer that SBLE would be in the National League and Cukur would be in League 1 I'd have been surprised

 

I think Lo-Everton's loan was a great move for him, get him living far away from home and playing some brutal teams at that level. He's only a small guy so if he can learn to take some hits and think a bit quicker with less time on the ball it'll do him wonders.

 

I did think maybe Lo-Everton could hack the Football League considering that he had a very promising spell at Wealdstone (one of the worst teams in the National League), although (and this is no slight on him, he's still one of our most promising prospects) perhaps a whole season in the National League is the best thing for him

 

U Nit

 

Cukur has returned to the club after Doncaster took up an option to end the loan spell.

 

Reaction from fans on twitter:

'Best news all ******* season'

'THANK **** FOR THAT'

'Feels like a signing getting rid of him!!!'

 

And people complain we don’t put our youth players in our own first team.

 

Asprilla on the bench for Colombia

 

Came off the bench for the second half and had a very good game by the sounds of it.

Created the second goal https://twitter.com/ParcerosUnited/status/1482866658393960451 and seemingly heavily involved throughout https://twitter.com/SimonEdwardsSAF/status/1482896110968614918

Quite a bit of talk that he may go on loan to América de Cali for the next 6 months so he can play continental football.

 

Bring him straight to us, do not send him to some foreign loan. As for a work permit surely now he is a full international that should not be a problem?

 

Still better he gets more game experience than "trains" with us surely at that age ?

 

I like the sound of that, keep him in South America and then bring him to us, rather than get him to Italy just to fulfil work permit rules

 

Yeah - he would also get a decent amount of work permit points playing in the Copa as well. If he continues to impress there is always a chance he gets a call up for the full national team games as well as he is quickly becoming one of their most exciting youngsters.

I don't think 6 months rotting with Udinese's U23s for 6 months really does him any great favours.

 

Another assist for PZ.

 

Zinckernagel with a lovely assist and then went on to get Ravel Morrison sent off and cause an on pitch brawl at full time.

Lovely stuff. There’s someone I can get behind next season.

 

Andre with a goal against Coventry, 'cooly slotted into the far corner'.

 

Not exactly difficult to get Ravel Morrison sent off, the sort of bloke who could have an argument with himself in a phone box*

*anyone not sure what that is feel free to pm me

 

Another poor performance from Zinc, hooked again. Hopefully he'll be an okay option next season if we go down but can't see him progressing any further than that.

 

Interesting interview re Quina

Partway through what was expected to be a season-long loan at Fulham from Premier League outfit Watford, the midfielder saw his work-rate openly questioned in the media by Craven Cottage chief Marco Silva last October.
Ultimately, it was not the precursor to an upturn for Quina, who was restricted to just four appearances in all competitions under Silva before returning to his parent club last month.

After his appearance in the EFL Cup against Leeds United on September 21, Quina did not feature until Fulham’s FA Cup win at Bristol City on January 8 – his final game for the club. He never started a single match under the ex-Hull City head coach.

Despite receiving brickbats from Silva, Quina – while admitting to being hurt by the comments – does not hold it against the Portuguese either.

Admirably, while admitting that being ostracized by Silva was mentally challenging, he believes it has toughened him up from a mentality standpoint.

Quina told The Yorkshire Post: “It was weird, I did not understand that (Silva’s comments). He has to say something to make his point, but I have nothing against him and everyone there.

“I will always thank him for his feelings and he made me a stronger player mentally.

“It did hurt me because in training, he said I trained well. The one thing I can tell about myself, even though I like the ball and do my skills is that even when the skills are not working, I do not stop watching and running.

“I will always run and give my best to help the team, even when my technical quality is not there. I will work hard in training and do my best.”
Support of friends and family helped him during his fraught time in West London. The backing from players in Fulham’s squad also meant a fair bit during a challenging episode in his career which he has thankfully gained strength from.

Quina continued: “It is hard for a player when you train and on game day, you are not involved and not playing. Mentally, it is hard and if you are not good mentally, it affects what you are doing as well.
“Even when you are trying stuff, it is all in your head.

“In one way, it was bad, but in another way, it was good for me personally as it made me stronger.

“If I’d go home and sit there, my head would just start going crazy and I’d be thinking and thinking about things over and over. I just tried to keep myself busy with extra training and things like that.

“They have got experienced players and everyone was talking to me and saying: ‘Keep doing what you are doing, you are training well and when your chance comes, take it.’
For me, I was just seeing the end-game. I’d been there for six months and nothing changed and I thought it is better for me to go somewhere else and challenge myself.

The opposite scenario now applies at Barnsley.

While the 22-year-old is energised by his move at least, his new team are on an atrocious run of results.

From his own perspective, Quina is happy to be there, at least.

The midfielder, who was cup-tied for last weekend’s FA Cup game at Huddersfield Town, continued: “I am just trying to enjoy my football and help the team as much as I can. I know the situation is not where we want to be, but I am involved and that is something.


“My family and my brother – who I am really close to – and my girlfriend helped me a lot and they were there with me. It would have been harder if I was there by myself.

“They tried to take my head out of it and think about the bigger picture and do the extra work and eat the right food. Things like that.”

For my first game (against Cardiff), I came with my brother who was here for a couple of days. He watched the first game with my girlfriend.

“Luton (where Barnsley played on Tuesday) was also about 30 minutes from my house and they all came down as well. It is nice to know they have got my support.

“I just feel for the players. Luton was my first game with the away fans as well. I felt bad – even though we tried, we did not give them what they wanted.”

 

Dan Phillips - Dirtiest player in England

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/dirtiest-player-team-england-cards-26207104.amp

Clear a space in the trophy cabinet for that one

 

A unit.

 

Quina scored the winna for Barnsley this afternoon.

 

At least one Watford player can score, just a pity it wasn't for us

 

Worth a punt?

 

I mean, they're not doing great in the Championship but yeah, might be worth supporting Barnsley instead in the long run.

 

Deserves a place in the squad if we go down. Remains to be seen if he could progress to being a regular starter. Same as Pollock, Dele-Bashiru, Phillips and maybe a final chance for Quina. Let's see who grabs it, if two out of that five could become Championship regulars would be a decent return.

 

Another goal for Hungbo tonight.

 

I think Quina needs to be moved on and not seen much in Phillips to suggest he has a career above where he is currently. Would like to the others given a chance along with Baah though