(4) Kevin Keben

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by Crezzy95, Aug 20, 2024.

  1. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Money spent = no guarantee of anything.
    Remember the money we've spent on some absolutely pathetic players? It's a long list.
     
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  2. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Too early to judge. Pozzo has obviously taken the cheap route in opting for 36 and 35 year old free agents. Promising start for sissoko. Ogbonna yet to play. Let’s see if they have been good season long additions before declaring Pozzo skinflinting as the best formula?

    Vata looks a bargain I’ll give you that. It’s a long season and there are some hard fixtures on the horizon.
     
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  3. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    It's being realistic rather than negative. Can you tell me how many of the current squad could hack it the Premier League next season? I don't want to see us getting thrashed week after week and a succession of managers getting sacked. Give the likes of Vata, Bah, Pollock etc a couple of years and we might have a chance of staying up.
     
  4. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Do you think at some point in the future we are going to get promoted to the prem with a squad that is already good enough to survive in the prem ? You will have a long wait. If you don’t want to see us win promotion what is the point in going to watch ? If we are close to the play offs in April will you want us to lose ?
     
  5. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    When the Pozzos first took over the model to get us to the PL was to loan/transfer in superior players from Udinese.

    Out prior two promotions before that were completely out of the blue, they were not the result of allowing a team to develop towards it for several years.

    If Vata/Bah/Pollock develop to the level that gets us challenging at the top of the championship then at the very least one will be sold, in the same way we only got one season out of Asprilla.
     
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  6. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    On paper probably not but as Brian Clough said the game is played on grass.
    The likes of Vata, Baah and Pollock might not even be with us if we're stuck in the Championship or worse. You never turn your nose up at the biggest league in the world and the riches that come with it.
    I'm more focused on the here and now and enjoy watching a Watford team. Yes a team that look together and are fighting for one another and especially Tom Cleverley.
     
  7. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Exactly. As you say the GT and Boothroyd promotions were out of the blue. Even under Pozzo that first promotion squad were pretty much entirely replaced after we were promoted. Gomes, Deeney, Ighalo survived, not many others. Even Abdi only had a bit part role.
     
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  8. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    The latest I have is that Keben is likely to sign and may be fit in 2-3 months, hopefully on the lower side of that window. Would imagine it will be him, Jebbison and potentially a midfielder before the end of the window.
     
  9. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    But on loan instead of permanent?
    I’d be happy with that being the rest of our business. I think RWB is more important than CB to reinforce, but maybe Keben is seen as an option there.
     
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  10. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    Thanks for the update. Strange imo. Just hope he's worth the wait.
     
  11. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    No idea on the terms of the deal, sorry.
     
  12. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    No worries; thanks for the update
     
  13. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Must be perm surely. Why would you loan somebody for 9 months who won’t be fit for 3 of them
     
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  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    The only reason I can think of is the relatively modern football phenomenon of loaning players for the current season with a mandatory buy clause kicking in next summer. In that way the cost on the books is kicked into the next financial year.

    Can't imagine this guy is costing enough to justify that though...?
     
  15. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    If there are concerns he won’t recover from his injury, or will be likely to suffer frequent relapses, then at least come the end of the season he won’t be your financial responsibility any more.
     
  16. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Don’t sign him at all then
     
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  17. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    I agree, just putting out one possible line of thinking
     
  18. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    He’s also out of contract next summer I believe - so loaning him for a season doesn’t make much sense to Toulouse on the face of it.
     
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  19. LouOrns

    LouOrns First Year Pro

    Cleverley just said he’s signing. But the structure of the deal I don’t know
     
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  20. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Fishal..
     
  21. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    At least they mention the "knee issue"
     
  22. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    loan or outright buy ?
     
  23. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Bat Bast! Beben!
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  24. loyal1

    loyal1 Reservist

    Permanent
     
  25. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    This and Bayo both on a Thursday

    The end is near…
     
  26. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    I see Toulouse fans are not happy .... often a reasonable sign that he has something about him
     
  27. Bubble

    Bubble Wise Oracle

    Undisclosed fee apparently.
     
  28. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I'm sure it will be a fair market price.....
     
  29. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    I would suggest you gave your head a wobble etc..

    But then again it is Thursday and we have got some business done.
     
  30. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Undisclosed is Gino binary for "little bit for me, little bit for the agent and the rest can sort itself out. He probably has a little black book with all the 'undisclosed' payments we have done.
     
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  31. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Who? Gino or the agent?
     
  32. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Either. Both probably get the same cut! :)
     
  33. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Lol I meant in the computing sense. He can sort things either one way or another with no in-between just like 0s and 1s, true or false, black or white or light and darkness.
     
  34. Amersham CC

    Amersham CC Academy Graduate

    Looks like my contact was on the money!
     
  35. Johnny Todd Sings

    Johnny Todd Sings First Year Pro

    I don't want a binary Gino in the computing sense. Then there would be 10 of him.
     
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