[REPORTED] Ismaila Sarr

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by Burnsy, Jul 19, 2020.

  1. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  2. GarbeliaHornet

    GarbeliaHornet Academy Graduate

    I was talking about next season or the season after.

    And I think there were 6 or 7 'if's in that post.
     
  3. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Yes I should have used a switch statement;
     
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  4. HeiaWatford

    HeiaWatford First Year Pro

    I totally disagree I believe it strengthens his hand. But as you said they've not done it before.
     
  5. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Well we never wagered but looks like Danjuma is heading to Villarreal for £20m on the nose. So I guess neither of us wins but I’d like to take credit as being a little more on the money. Clearly they weren’t holding out for £35m.
     
  6. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Surely a release clause is purely for the benefit of the player, there is no benefit to the club what so ever.
     
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  7. ITK platypus

    ITK platypus Reservist

    Assume we will make an agreement allowing him to leave next summer.

    And then break the agreement and hold him hostage.
     
  8. westbridgfordhornet

    westbridgfordhornet Academy Graduate

    I'd love to read in the next few days that Capoue welcomes his new teammate with a 'reducer' breaking Danjuma's leg at his first Villareal training session with reports circulating that Etienne whispers "f*** your Cherries" in the Dutchman's ear as he writhes in agony. You're allowed to dream aren't you?
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  9. Other than getting the player to commit to a longer/new contract ?
     
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  10. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    If I were negotiating I think the club should aim to get Sarr to sign a new long-term contract using a release clause for summer 2022 only of £60-70m. We’re not going to get more than that fee next summer with only two additional years of contract. So this way we lock in the potential fee from next summer while ensuring that our upside is not limited should he stay beyond that time.

    Just as another point I think release clauses do bolster a selling club’s position with its own player. A player is less likely to agitate for a move if the release clause has not been met. The club can just point to the release clause and say this is how it works. The lack of a formal valuation in a contract without a release clause can cause players to feel that the valuation is unfair and inhibiting a move and result in a player agitating for a move. I know this is a bit of a different example given the structure of the clause in question but I think it’s clear that Haaland would have moved this summer if not for the release clause/lower amount next summer.
     
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  11. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Romano said £20m
     
  12. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    In a perfect world where players respect contracts yes but in reality, not really true is it? If a player wants out, his club can rightly point to any release clause - but we all know that players will still agitate for a move/down tools/go AWOL.

    And is that entirely clear about Haaland? Dortmund showed last summer their resolve over Sancho. And the only comments I’ve seen from Haaland this summer was that he hasn’t spoken to his agent about a transfer and is happy to stay at Dortmund.
     
  13. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    And other outlets are saying €25m.

    Either way, hardly worth going back and forth over!
     
  14. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

    Sell him. Pocket the cash.
     
  15. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    Yeah it’s pretty close. Seems like different reports of the fee fall either side of the line. But Bournemouth were clearly willing to sell for around £20m. I think they would have caved for even less if they got closer to the deadline.
    Obviously any player who demands to leave is disregarding their contract to some degree but disregarding a release clause is to disregard a provision negotiated specifically for this purpose and really makes it trickier for the player to claim a grievance. I do think that is worth something but generally not worth cabining a player’s fee’s upside.

    Haaland is happy to stay because he knows he’ll have his pick of the litter next summer and get paid more by his new club too given that the transfer fee will be 50%+ less.
     
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  16. I'm hearing €24.8m.
     
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  17. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Why would any player sign a deal with a grossly overvalued release clause?
     
  18. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Hmm. Most reliable source on twitter says £20m.

    Open forum and all that, settle down! Wasn't that serious...

     
  19. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    I'm sorry you've taken it that way. Try not to be so defensive when wrong.
     
  20. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I’m not going to take lessons from you on anything. I’ve said I don’t believe I was wrong in my viewpoint. I always felt he’d go for about £25m. There are many reports that it’s not far off that. Respect my viewpoint maybe rather than just ignoring those reports and saying I’m wrong?

    Mods, I have no problem if you want to tidy the thread up and get rid of this ridiculous discussion.
     
  21. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Just advice on trying not to get so riled up when wrong. Never said you had to take it.
     
  22. Relegation Certs

    Relegation Certs Squad Player

    Who cares, he's shyt anyway.

    *sips turps*
     
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  23. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    I think from our history that it is clear that I would have no desire to take advice from you. So in future, don’t bother yourself. Hope that’s clear enough for you.

    Enjoy your day.
     
  24. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Please don't tell me what to do, I'll keep giving advice if I think you need it. Then it's up to you if you take it, or keep getting so annoyed.
     
  25. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Then I shall report each of those posts given I’ve politely asked you not to do it. Easy. Bless you thinking that you’re annoying me.
     
  26. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    You're entitled to engage in any pathetic activity you choose to, go ahead.
     
  27. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Jesus….6 of one and half a dozen of the other. Come on lads it’s football ffs.
     
  28. Since63

    Since63 Reservist

    Seems more like tennis to me...
     
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  29. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Lads, please, every time there's a new post in this thread it gives the rest of the forum a heart attack!
     
  30. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Is this **** staying yet?
     
  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Gon 2 Udinese
     
  32. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    I spent a while deleting the posts and tidying up.
    No more personal insults or long winded fights/windups please, from both sides.
    Or we close the thread
     
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  33. GarbeliaHornet

    GarbeliaHornet Academy Graduate

    Please do it!

    No more Sarr leaving rumours for us!
     
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  34. Burnsy or WT ?
     
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  35. WeveGotSteviePalmerNo1

    WeveGotSteviePalmerNo1 Academy Graduate

    everyone having a good normal day today?
     

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