[SOLD] Isaac Success

Discussion in 'The Transfer List' started by wfc4ever, Feb 1, 2021.

  1. Abdi

    Abdi Academy Graduate

    Prime example that being big, strong and fast doesn't automatically make someone good at football.

    One of our worst ever players.
     
  2. I Blame Bassett

    I Blame Bassett Squad Player

    As Ian Drury said "What a Waste".
    I'll always remember me wishing him good luck for the season a few years ago on Occupation Road and him looking vacantly at me!
     
  3. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    This is a much debated topic - Is he better or worse than Jure Travener, Sietes, Adam Griffiths, Gareth Williams, Steve Leo Beleck (not the forum poster, i'm sure he's capable of kicking a ball), Fanchone.

    Taking a different view, he ended his Watford career on a high. Possibly off the pitch as well.
     
  4. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Same, i visited in 2016 and watched them lose 2.1 to Gary Neville's Valencia. https://www.espn.co.uk/football/report/_/gameId/433735
    Just looked up line up Dimitri Foulquier, Adalberto Peñaranda, Isaac Success starting and A. Doucouré on the bench...we already had Iggy and Nyom who featured on their hall of fame
     
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  5. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    Definitely not the worst, not even top 3 worst imo. Andre, Ellington, Vega
     
  6. CarlosKickaballs

    CarlosKickaballs Forum Picarso

    Andre has taken that title for years
     
  7. Maninblack

    Maninblack Reservist

    Their namesakes would have done a better job; Peter, Duke and Suzanne.
     
  8. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Worst is subjective, was he worst purely based on talent? No, not by a long way. Was he worst when you factor in transfer fee, potential and opportunity? He’s definitely up there.
     
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  9. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Nope. Not even close.
     
  10. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    Time to drop it Leigh-Anne, haven’t you got a QPR forum to bother?
     
  11. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Do you get an alert to your phone whenever someone disrespects Andre Gray?

    Congrats on the twins, by the way.
     
  12. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Depends if you think at his prime for us, competing against a 20 million man in Deeney who was undroppable and competing against a 15 million man in Delefeo who was class made him the worst signing ever. Whereas you got 13.5 million of pretty much naff all from Success and other players mentioned in other posts from Watford's past who also did naff all and who were bad value in their day at a time when there were no Deeneys and Delefeos knocking about.

    The 3 of them - Deeney Gray and Delefeo - under Gracia, was arguably the best season we had since GT. And they all contributed.
     
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  13. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    :)
     
  14. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    I was actually talking about Success Manat.

    Gray had barely any upward potential when we bought him (not his fault Gino’s fault) hence why you have to consider Success in the worst ever conversation, and hence the mention of the word potential and opportunity in my post.
     
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2021
  15. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Oh. Apologies. When you replied with the LA name drop i thought you had joined the Gray-hate party.
     
  16. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    Certainly worse than Gareth Williams, who was a decent player. Very harsh to include him in this list since his career was ended through no fault of his own.
     
  17. quincymd

    quincymd Academy Graduate

    Goodnight Sweet Prince. Great name, terrible player for a team looking to be in the EPL.
     
  18. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I can't believe I'm saying this but if it was a choice between keeping Success or Gray, I would keep Gray, but of course I would ideally not keep either of the useless sacks of ****.
     
  19. RS2

    RS2 Reservist

    I doubt he'll even be named in the squad.
     
  20. He's no Albert McClenaghan.
     
  21. Manatleisure

    Manatleisure Reservist

    Nothing wrong with saying it. I'd keep him over Deeney too if forced to choose.
     
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  22. Sort of OK

    Sort of OK Reservist

    Or just go with the Limoncello instead and show some tactical flexibility.
     
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  23. Cude>2<

    Cude>2< First Team Captain

    Oh agreed - The list was mainly players who made little to no appearances for us regardless of their careers - could add many more such as Diakite/N'Dong etc. If Isaac only made his first 6 or so appearances for us I don't think people would be as negative - I recall at one point people were calling for him to be a shoe in starter, then he found Baileys.
     
  24. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

    Unused sub tonight for Udinese.

    So it begins…
     
  25. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    And tarts
     
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  26. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team

  27. Ágætis Byrjun

    Ágætis Byrjun Reservist

  28. Since63

    Since63 Reservist

    Well, I think he could take a throw-in without falling over, at least. Mind you, that's about the only time he doesn't fall over!
     
  29. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

  30. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

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  31. a19tgg

    a19tgg Squad Player

    So about £10m for 3 goals, at least one was a screamer.
     
  32. Burnsy

    Burnsy Squad Player

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  33. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    I liked the part where he said he always gave his all for Watford.

    That was nice of him.
     
  34. LondonOrn

    LondonOrn Reservist

    Interesting that as far as I can see (only read the last page) no one has mentioned Jurado in terms of players getting an extended run of games, but objectively at least he has to be among the worst with 27 league starts and no goals or assists and we paid £6m for him. And there were other negative factors like his terrible shooting, erratic set pieces and reluctance to track back or tackle.

    But he wasn't all that bad and he was good enough for keeping possession and managing the game. I daresay if we'd had a player like Jurado in 2006/07 in his correct position we wouldn't have hoofed the ball so much and would have held onto the ball for more than a couple of passes and might have scraped a few more points, albeit not necessarily enough to keep us up.
     
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