(6) Imran Louza

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by Smudger, Jun 1, 2021.

  1. FromDiv4

    FromDiv4 Reservist

    What has his current injury got to do with the physicality of the game?
     
  2. Burnsy

    Burnsy First Team

    I do agree with your wider point that’s it’s not really linked per se.

    However, the question you’ve asked can be answered more generally by saying a more physical player defends their body better. Could that have happened here? Unlikely. It’s bad luck. But any injury can be linked to the physical levels of a player in some way.
     
  3. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    You cannot be serious. Are you honestly suggesting that foreigners have weak bones compared to British players?

    This injury is pure bad luck on his part.
     
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  4. DaveWFC

    DaveWFC Academy Graduate

    We are 100% in a relegation battle.

    What a f*cking mess.
     
  5. 110%
     
  6. Cthulhu

    Cthulhu Keyboard Warrior Staff Member

    Spitting found not proven by the FA

    phew! He can now play for the rest of the, oh wait….
     
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  7. Loyalhornet

    Loyalhornet First Year Pro

    This is a bit of a disaster . Not because Louza was a bad signing .He has looked a class act so far in the few games he’s played and well capable of handling the physical side of the game .

    We haven’t got anyone any where near his quality to come in, so it’s more not signing any adequate cover that will cost us .
     
  8. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Will the Swansea player get into trouble now or do they think he did spit but have no real proof?
     
  9. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Season. Over.
     
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  10. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    I wonder if that's a political decision.

    He's out for months anyway now, so why risk upsetting anyone if it was a borderline case? Those who wanted him punished will probably be more than satisfied by a broken bone and months on the sidelines.
     
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  11. I feel this punishment is disproportionate. Can he appeal ?
     
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  12. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    The FA can rebuild him. They have the technology
     
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  13. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Can't appeal a straight broken leg.
     
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  14. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    As far as I can tell he wasn't particularly injury prone before Watford?
     
  15. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Sorry but not having that. The injury on Wednesday could happen to anybody and nothing to do with his ability to play in England. Has looked more than comfortable with the physicality of the games. This is not one to beat Mogi and Pozzo but there are plenty of others
     
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  16. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Tell me what his physicality level had to do with Wednesdays injury.
     
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  17. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    Agree to disagree. Irrespective of latest injury the large fee spent last summer was a criminal use of our limited funds given other needs. It was done fairly instantly after promotion funds were received. Furnishing Bayat was the driver here, not the needs of the team.

    I do agree there are more outrageous examples as at least Louza looks decent on the rare occasions he is available.
     
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  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    When he arrived I thought we might be in a position to splash the cash a little bit as £9m isn't a huuuge amount, but it did indeed transpire that for all his qualities, it was an inefficient use of limited funds. It's hardly his fault on this point as he's had horrendous injury problems this season, but it looks like we can't even say that he at least got us promoted like we can with Sarr
     
  19. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

  20. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    Anymore expansive news on lay off time other than just months ?
     
  21. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    Any guesses on how long he'll be out? We've pushed on without him, but it feels even more gutting now
     
  22. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Hard to see him getting back in the team when he's fit.
     
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  23. NathWFC

    NathWFC First Team

    I would have thought February/March time.

    So next season, then.
     
  24. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    While it's obviously devastating for him to miss the World Cup, it's a small mercy to us that the World Cup is happening when it is as it's simply a month of nothing he's missing for us
     
  25. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Yeah but then he's going to miss several more months of something before and after the World Cup in which the 6 or so fixtures that would have been played in that period will be played instead. I'm not sure there's much gain to us either way.
     
  26. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Turns out this guy is important after all, whodathunkit?
     
  27. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Agree. We have no midfield engine with him out - he dictates the play so well and can pick a great pass. He could be out past Xmas and we have nobody even half that good as a replacement, although Asprilla does have the makings of a great player and Sarr/Pedro are good but too inconsistent.
     
  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Would be absolutely shocked if we see him until around March time tbf, possibly longer
     
  29. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Indeed, this is why we literally must recruit in January. Again, realistically we should be trying for a free agent, as even Bilic himself mentioned at the time of injury, but that ship has very likely sailed at this point. That's just about forgivable given the difficulty of finding the appropriate character, if we are indeed ready and poised to pull the trigger the second the clock strikes midnight on December 31st. Of course, I literally said exactly the same thing last winter, and, of course, we won't be.
     
  30. Halfwayline

    Halfwayline Reservist

    can’t disagree but if, by Jan, it looks likely that we won’t be automatically promoted then I would see JP and potentially Sarr being moved on to balance books. That will mean we need RWB, CB, more forward options and upgrades in midfield…just won’t happen
     
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  31. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    Supposedly the JP contract extension was designed to rubber stamp the fact that there'd be no chance/worries of him agitating and being off in January, because they're determined to have him here for the season spearheading the charge. Given what Forest did last year, I'd be surprised if it's possible for us to be in such a position as for Gino to think we literally have no hope to the point of contravening that and fire sale-ing off the family jewels. Particularly with what fairly clearly appears to be Gino's belief that we desperately need to get promoted for the financial health/survival of the club.

    Of course, though, indeed, as I said, it's perfectly possible that it won't happen, because Gino is labouring under two conflicting driving forces whilst remaining incapable of understanding the relationship between the two.
     
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  32. wingco

    wingco Reservist

    Late Feb early March according to Bilic. Hopefully useful in the run in at least
     
  33. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

    Did he say which year? I'm guessing 2025 with our medical team.
     
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  34. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    And presumably from that point (if indeed he's actually over the injury by then) he'll need time to get fully up to speed
     
  35. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    Seems the FA tried to appeal the independent panel's finding that Louza was not guilty of spitting at the Swansea player but lost that too!

    Summary and full PDFs of the reasons here:

    https://www.thefa.com/news/2022/nov/24/louza-update-241122

    Seems a bit bonkers it ever got as far as it did given the appeal board's conclusion that, "this case was solely one person’s word against another. The video evidence does not show the act complained of..." and "There was no identification by the referee of any evidence of spitting whether by seeing it happen or seeing saliva on the complainant when he approached the referee".
     
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