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Who do you want as the next Tory party Leader

  1. Rishi Sunak

    7 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Lizz Truss

    4 vote(s)
    36.4%
  1. Moose

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    Probably one for @Clive_ofthe_Kremlin (and I understand that driving was not his 'thang') but is that the cab (possibly of a trainer/simulator) of one of those driver only operated trains?
     
  12. Moose

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    No, definitely a dalek.
     
  13. Moose

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    If you need any further indication of Liz Truss’s base there are two Facebook groups,

    Liz Truss Supporters and
    Liz Truss Supporters Group.

    It’s not clear to what extent there is any ‘People’s Popular Front of Judea’ going on.

    Both are depressing reads.

    The first is hate Starmer, hate Sunak, boosterism, why are my drains blocked, Liz is our only hope etc. A post from a Brexit group claiming that ‘the Woke’ have decided apple pie is racist is met without scepticism. It soon lapses into vigorous support for a Polish Politician who calls for ‘not one Muslim’ to be allowed in, wish he was our Home Secretary says one, until people then start to moan about the Poles over here.

    The second group LTSG is pretty similar. One contributor suggests it would be ‘treason’ to vote for anyone but Liz. And then I came across this, which is surely a wind up? It hurt my brian just reading it.

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    Why do you go out of your way to seek out this cr@p? It just upsets you
     
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  15. Moose

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    Why does anyone look at videos of unfolding disaster, bad driving or people being unreasonable? It’s entertaining. :)

    You have to admit that poem is entertaining.
     
  16. Bwood_Horn

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    See, the poster in A. N. Other thread got it wrong - it's not 'Terrys' the you need but "Brians".
     
  17. Lloyd

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    Keep 'em coming!
     
  18. Moose

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    I do think your response somewhat dodges the reality of conservative membership, folk who are about to choose the Country’s next leader. Those groups are a barkathon of xenophobia and daftness.
     
  19. Since63

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    The poem seems to have been written by someone from Liz's class at the school she, effectively, threw under the bus.
     
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  21. Bwood_Horn

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    Didn't she throw Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaab under a bus over his (and her own) 'well-researched' (sic) 'claims' about British workers in their worthy tome "Britannia Unchained"?
     
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    The irony meter is at ten and bending when people who support Boris Johnson are accusing others of being lazy.
     
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    Why are the rail services on the continent better and cheaper than here? Because we are subsidising them.....

     
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    This is one of Mick Lynch's big things. He's heavily pro-Brexit as EU regulation forbade the nationalisation of privately-owned assets. The fact that, in the current climate. the majority of our rail networks are actually run by central government just adds to the farcical situation.
     
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    It’s an informative video and makes a good point, but I’m not sure, on reflection, that the portrayal of Europeans as a bit smug is helpful.

    The emphasis should be on the politicians in the UK who support privatisation and throw our money away in pursuit of ideology and class profit.
     
  27. Moose

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    Do all remember to express your displeasure at this if one of those is your MP.

    Like the angry constituents of Dorset MP Chris Loder, who finding their beaches closed in the holiday season are asking him some pithy questions via Twitter and elsewhere, without getting any answers.
     
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    He's probably on a nice clean beach a long way from Dorset........
     
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    Noting Sunak’s claim that he will change the definition of what an asylum seeker is to prevent exploitation by ‘lefty lawyers’…

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    Hyde is an extremely gifted writer. Some of her turns of phrase are just glorious. But like her Guardian colleague John Crace, however excellent her writing is, she is not changing a single mind.

    The fundamental problem is that the news has become entirely tribal – Truss playing to the gallery at a GB News 'hustings' by criticising the BBC for accuracy is as infantile as it is effective. It works on precisely the people it needs to work on. 18 months ago, the US idea of 'woke' was barely even recognised as a word, let alone a concept, here. Yet today the Daily Mail has it on its front page, knowing that it hits the bullseye with precisely the right people. Literally anyone who describes anything as woke has been told to think that. The word has been beamed directly into their brains.

    The media used to be pretty decent at joining the dots but now all the issues in the country are presented in isolation – perhaps deliberately so. The sewage flows into the rivers and seas but the vital link between the water companies being privatised, the vast profits, the lack of investment in infrastructure, the CEO salaries and shareholder dividends and the MPs who voted to allow it, is not routinely made, as it should be. That is journalism's job. To provide context where it completes the picture and tells the story.

    The rail workers are on strike but the coverage is all about the inconvenience to 'you'. There might be a bit of dirt on Mick Lynch and other union bosses, an attempt to paint them as highly paid activists holding the country to ransom, but the link between the rail workers and 'us' – other workers – is not made. 'They' are the same as 'us', really, and yet the striking workers are presented as 'others'. Their reasons for striking are not often presented – although perhaps that is because the unions recommend they leave the public speaking part to the union leaders.

    Ditto every other major story. The 87-year-old whose treatment fell woefully, woefully short at hospital – the story is never on the salami-slice privatisation of NHS services (your health for their profit), nor on the deliberate underfunding. It's always on the supposed layers of bureaucracy, the pen-pushers. The salaries of NHS Trust CEOs is always a stick to beat the NHS with but no one ever questions why those salaries are high. Partly, it strikes me, it's so there's an easy target for the Government to point to when the public becomes frustrated with the NHS. 'Look at the chief exec of £420,000, not at the dreadful Government.' This, of course, completely ignores the fact that the Tory mantra is that 'the market' decides these salaries. It's such a labyrinthine con job that we can barely unpick it any more. Tug at one strand and the whole tangled mess just becomes so difficult to even comprehend. Much of the media, at any rate, has given up trying to comprehend and explain, partly because 'what I reckon' journalism is so much easier and more effective.
     
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    £17m paid to Avanti West Coast is ‘reward for failure’, says Labour
    Under-fire firm given performance and management fees despite being worst-performing rail operator


     
  35. Excellent appraisal of our next PM from Matthew Parris:
    "Liz Truss is a planet-sized mass of overconfidence and ambition teetering upon a pinhead of a political brain."
     

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