Give Gino A Break?

That's nothing! Wait till you see this:

https://twitter.com/BuzzardHornet/status/1665801216985645057?t=JX3hWfbELpHcdpaFDUsddA&s=19

 

So Okoye is the 'Nigerian Curse?'

 

I've clicked the link every single time. I might not fall for the BBB but I fell for that joke

 

The club is probably just encouraging disabled people to bring a flask to games instead of having someone queue up to get them a hot drink

 

But what about the waiting list?

 

People keep going on about Okoye being a waste of money and he might well be at this stage. I was expecting him to start last season as Fosters replacement and you may recall that Bachman almost went to Man Utd.

When he joined he had offers from a number of premier clubs and in Europe. What I have seen hasn't been brilliant but like many he needs regular first team football.
I remember a number of players written off in their early days with the club. Ross Jenkins springs to mind, he didnt do too bad.

Recruiting players isn't an exact science, many seem to fail at one club and then do well elsewhere. Steven Berghuis was a waste of space at Watford in 2015/16 I think he played about 9 games and has starrred this season for Ajax in the European cup and has 45 caps for Netherlands.

I hope he gets a chance witth us or a move away. Perhaps its not just Gino that we need to give a break to

 

You think gino needs to be given a break?

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Certainly not going to get anywhere with our current level of vitriol, not just on this forum, some of the darker stuff is nasty

 

I'd say working with agents under serious legal investigation, stopping people helping the disabled, running the club into over 100 million in debt with loans against the stadium, kicking out fans for having a differing opinion and sacking the manager who was meant to be our future 11 games in who then went to promote our rivals, all whilst preferring to take fines over doing fans forums that were promised is slightly deserving of criticism. But hey we lost to gillingham 60 years ago so be careful what you wish for!

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especially one that did quite well on loan

 

It's out there if you look for it.

 

I totally accept that everyone including me is allowed an opinion. Sometimes you have to challenge those opinions and that is fine. Nothing wrong with a good debate.

I dont for one minute think that everything Gino has done is perfect. I would like to think he has the best interests of the club at heart. I hope he also has his best interests as a businessman at heart and when those two collide it works well.

If you study successful business people most of them have had to duck and dive, do what it takes sometimes to survive. It doesn't mean they are bad etc

Probably Gino would have been well advised to communicate better and take the fans with him.

I still say if I was Gino I would be angry, we need to get the fans back onside.

 

Not a troll, just a different opinion to you

 

I think we need to give some of the forum users a break.

 

Absolutely everyone has a different opinion, and everyone is entitled to it. The difference is, multiple people, including financial experts who have studied our accounts in detail have given you irrefutable facts as to why your opinion is wrong (which you ignore) and have asked you various different questions regarding some of the claims you have made (which you ignore) which is what makes you a troll, so there is a clear difference between having an opinion and just being on a wind up.

By all means have a different opinion, but if you can’t back it up with any actual facts, and if you completely ignore all the facts given to you, then you need to be prepared to change that opinion. Otherwise you just, at best, come across like a flat earther, or trump supporter, but in reality I think in your case it’s far more simple, you’re just for some strange reason, looking for a rise from a fan base that is almost to a man/woman extremely angry at the owner and justifiably so. It’s either a very poor attempt at a windup, or maybe being kinder you’re just a bit dim, to try and go against the grain of popular opinion on here without any facts to back that opinion up, and ignoring any facts that come your way Is just a very transparent and very dull attempt at getting some attention. But hey, it’s worked, so well done and I hope you feel fulfilled at wasting everyone’s time for a few days.

In fact that reminds me, HB1 normally likes to go off the reservation and go on and end of season wind up, I’m willing to bet this is is you, or at least someone with far too much time on their hands and a very sad little life to lead.

 

Incredible.

 

Yeah send him on a holiday to Mars

 

If he does he might have Total Recall of all the ridiculous, arrogant decisions he's made.

 

Can you give me an example of an irrefutable fact i have ignored

 

Facts would be good for a change, I have quoted plenty, you just dont like my facts,

 

1. We have a lot of debt, but what we have is manageable and actually reduced last year.
2. Yes we change managers it didnt look poor when we got promoregularly, none of us particularly like that. However some like Roy should have been sacked earlier (After Crysral Palace Celebrations)
3. Recruitment. It is subjective and not a fact. Most pundits said we had the best squad in the division on paper. They just could not be motivated
4, Squad average again not a fact but they achieved a poor result given their skill level and wage level.
5. I guess this is Gieratta again. I would have sacked him. He either knows where the bodies are buried otr ha makes good money on player trading. Role has changed
6. Communications again not a fact but subjective but I do agree.
7. Not really once you get away from Luton. Mostly watford fans. - Not a fact but subjective.

 

1. Manageable debt? Really? What makes you say that. How do you suggest we reduce it down after this season
2. I don't think anybody criticized them when making a change a year but the last 3 or 4 years has been ridiculous with a minimum of 3 managers a season
3. It is not subjective, the recruitment last summer was completely laughable. Most pundits don't know anything about teams outside the top 6 in the Premier League
4. How many of our players would get in to teams who finished in the top 6? Pedro, Sarr. Squad is average made worse by signing below average players or unfit players from Villa
5. Papa Pozzo loves Gieratta. Not one we can blame Gino for
6. You think at any point communication is any better than rubbish.
7. We are not a laughing stock. People couldn't care less as we are not a Premier League team

 

The fact we have a squad full of players who, no matter how talented they ‘should be’ on paper, are clearly lacking in commitment and basic levels of effort, is of itself indicative of extremely poor recruitment.
There is obviously little, if not zero, attention paid to such important details as attitude and willingness to dig in and battle when necessary when we recruit players. The lack of due diligence is disgraceful.
I would venture that as commitment and attitude is as important as innate ability in a professional athlete, especially in the Championship, then the ‘fitness for purpose’ of our squad is proven to be ‘average’.
It is a fact we finished 11th in a 24 team division. It is a fact that being 11th out of 24 is to be defined as ‘average’. Yet our most recent serial poster claims it is not a fact. Just here to keep shouting that Gino is weally weally upset and all these nasty people should leave him alone. Whilst HOPING he has the best interests of WFC at heart; even he isn’t sure.

 

It absolutely is.

 

I'm reminded of Homer Simpson.

"Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true."

 

As a mod you can see login IPs right? I assume with you responding properly means that this poster is actually real?

 

When I was a mod I could turn on webcams remotely and get a live view of who was posting.

You really need some clean pants.









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