It's a bit simplistic to equate stock markets movements on one day with invester confidence with a particular regimes economic long-term plans. Overall the markets like certainty. It's highly likely that there would have been a positive response if Harris had won convincingly. There is no prospect of another Jan 6 or other civil unrest for a start. Markets tend to like right wing regimes because they tend to be less regulatory. However there is every indication, from what he's said about "getting rid of inflation" and introducing tariffs, that he's not going to be that type of right wing administration. If you want to take market reaction as an indicator of what the Trump election means to a country's economic prospects then it's not good for us and the rest of Europe: Or perhaps it's pretty meaningless in the long term?
Not sure if it's been mentioned on here but the numbers indicate that Harris had 15 million less votes than Biden (66m to 81mm). Trump actually got 2 million less votes than 2020 (72m to 74m). This would seem to confirm that Harris and the Dems lost the election because they failed to convince their "natural" supporters to turn out rather than Trump getting new support. It was reported that there were "massive queues" at polling stations indicating a record turnout. It looks like the opposite was true and there was even more electorate apathy than ever before.
Just heard this on a R4 interview- that actually made me choke on my coffee: "...new thinkers on the right such as Tucker Carlson..."
Given the FTSE performance of the last 12 months I'm going with meaningless. Biden wasn't very pro UK trade. The Hairy Wotsit seems to be anti everyone trade. Actually there seems to be some sort of bromance between him and Frogface Farage. If Labour can tap into that relationship it might actually be better for us.
But you didn't have a vote. Yet strangely here you are. You and others here, getting your knickers in a twist over something you have no control over. And a democratic decision that you might not agree with but the people who actually matter, the ones who could vote unlike you, did decide upon. Suck it up, just proves not everyone thinks like you do. On the plus side, he was the ace in Home Alone.
You do realise that some people on this thread did vote? Also seems strange to be verbally attacking people for discussing the outcome of an election in a part of the forum allowing for that? 90% of the debate has been civil (up until a little bit of back-and-forth last night) so where’s the problem? People discuss outcomes of elections all over the world and how happy they are with the result or not, and outline their reasoning. It’s called current affairs. Plus, the outcome of an Election in the USA (leader of the ‘free world’) will have an effect at some stage on the UK in the next 4 years. So fair game no?
Whether anyone had a vote in here or not (a few actually did) him being elected is likely to be negative for the UK, so I think we’re well within our rights to discuss it: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...by-half-and-push-up-inflation-thinktank-warns Considering the guy is also a convicted criminal, rapist, and rather ironically tried to overthrow democracy himself (why do you have a problem with us discussing the result here, but not with the guy we’re talking about actually attempting to do it?) I think it’s worthy of discussion. But I think the biggest irony of all is that this is a football forum, we discuss tactics, signings, managers, ownership and yet none of us have the blindest bit of influence on any of it, and yet here you are shouting into the void with the rest of us.
What a bizarre view to have. You can't have an opinion on something you don't directly have a say in?
Thank you for your concern about my underwear. Bit weird tbh but I can assure you that they are quite comfortable and not twisted at all. Welcome to the politics section. All people are welcome even those that are bizarrely telling people not to discuss things.
Trump will claim he HAS reduced inflation and it’s just the ‘deep state controlled media’ fiddling the reported figures.
But yet.........................more people with a vote, voted for him. Obviously if the UK electorate could of picked the President instead of the people who live there, Kamala would be celebrating. But the people who actually live day to day with the Presidents decisions decided they fancied another 4 years of the Perma Tanned Buffoon, their choice, let them live or die by it. Move on. You can dress up "crying" as "discussion" all you want, the fact you added a Guardian link as some balanced argument, leans it towards the former not the latter. And just think this time he will control, the Senate and the House aswell for at least 2 years. I've fetched the popcorn, should be fun.
Would you prefer it of the report that wasn’t made by the guardian came from a different source, how about Reuters, does that work better for you? https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk...rump-tariffs-plan-think-tank-says-2024-11-06/ You made no comment on how he tried to illegally overthrow the last election. Why is it exactly that you have a problem with people discussing politics on a politics forum, but you don’t have an issue with the US president trying to overthrow democracy and his own government?
So you don’t want people to engage about it - but your opening salvo to the topic was to ask people who they voted for? And as has been pointed out, there are people on this thread who could vote (myself included) - are they allowed to discuss it or is it a blanket ban?
I didn't comment on whatever I didn't comment on because I don't really give a sh1 t about it. That part seems to have flown straight over you twice now. I've no skin in who they pick so I'm happy with the good old people of the USA picking whoever they feel like they want too. Why would I a UK citizen worry about Donald the Jock "trying" to overthrow the US democracy, he didnt. So I'm really not going to worry about something that didn't happen. Guy Fawkes tried to overthrow our democracy, not losing sleep with worry about that either. I am commenting on or laughing at you, that's what I'm here for, not a discussion, that will be very one sided and you'll feel like you are talking to yourself. You a UK resident, crying about another countries citizens voting for someone just because you don't personally like the person. Nowt to do with you. Stop worrying about things that people tried to do but didn't or a decision other people made that you have no control off. Not healthy my friend.
I don’t care about the US president trying to overthrow their own government and subvert democracy, but I DO care about a handful of people discussing the outcome of political event on the political section of a football forum. Makes a lot of sense.
Isn’t the whole point of the politics section to create a debate about, predominantly, non football matters? Summarising the thread to date, I struggle anybody being able to admire or like Trump as a person His/Republican policies will be determined by where you sit on the political spectrum and what policies are important to you immaterial on where you live
Neurotic, alcoholic, pot-smoking, self-obsessed, occasional lesbian, with a narcissistic personality disorder currently living with husband number 4 (I think) on a sinking house boat somewhere in Holland . What else can I tell you?
You’re right. People debating - or ‘crying’ - over the actual topic was far less educational than the input you’ve provided us with. Much appreciated.
Who also claims that they have ‘no skin in the game’….which is a clear lie because I can read how thin-skinned they are from the comfort of my own home.
But it's not just them "living or dying by it" is it? It's all of us. If Trump pulls out of NATO, or stops supporting Ukraine, that's Europe in real danger. If Trump pulls out of the Paris climate accords, and lives up to his promise to 'drill, drill, drill baby', it's a disaster for climate change. But then you probably think Putin should be allowed to do as he pleases and if Moldova and Georgia, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania disappear no biggie? And climate change is a huge hoax, yeah? But hey, get the popcorn and enjoy him triggering the libs. Berk.
