First 11?

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by WFC123, Jul 31, 2024.

  1. WFC123

    WFC123 Academy Graduate

    Given that it hasn´t been a great pre-season, and that the 1st game against Millwall isn't far away. Compounded by the in this moment lack of transfer activity, further made worse by the lack of a sighting of a pot to piss in. In G(T)od's name can anyone guess our best 11 at the moment?

    All looking peachy going into the first run of fixtures, I wonder what Tom makes of it all.
     
  2. The Voice of Reason

    The Voice of Reason First Team Captain

    I don't know, but I hope there are quite a few AN OTHERS!!!
     
  3. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    Right now?
    Bachmann; Ngakia, Porteous, Hoedt, Sierralta, Morris; Dele-Bashiru, Kayembe; Chakvetadze, Vata; Baah.

    But with Hoedt injured - and Ngakia, Sierralta & Chakvetadze in the treatment soon knowing their histories - the backline looks much flimsier and the attack is very uninspiring.
     
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  4. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    Right now:

    Bachmann
    Porteous Sierralta Hoedt
    Andrews TDB Louza Sema (Larouci)
    Asprilla Bayo Chakvetadze
     
  5. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Bachmann
    Porteous - Sierralta - Hoedt
    Andrews - Sissoko - Louza - Larouci
    Vata - Chakvetadze
    Rajovic

    Subs: Bond, Pollock, Ngakia, Sema, Dele-Bashiru, Kayembé, Ince, Baah, Bayo
     
  6. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Bachmann
    Porteous - Sierrelta - Ticvic (until Hoedt is back)
    Andrews - Sissoko - TDB - Sema
    Apsrilla - Chak - Vata
     
  7. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    If all fit, available, happy, staying, part of training, in the country, liked by TC etc then;

    Bachmann
    Andrews Pollock Hoedt Porteous Sema
    Sissoko TDB
    Asprilla Chak
    Baah

    But more realistically for Millwall;

    Bachmann
    Andrews Pollock Hoedt Porteous Laurouchi
    Sissoko TDB
    Vata Chak
    New St
     
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  8. EB Hornet

    EB Hornet Reservist

    If we keep Asprilla then in this system we’ll have to have one of him, Chak or Vata on the bench.
     
  9. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    It will be Vata more often than not.
     
  10. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    From the bench to the bench then ?
     
  11. Oscar calling

    Oscar calling Squad Player

    Pollock must start, and I don't want to see Louza strolling around the pitch
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    TC, then Deeney, then Gosling, then finally Pardew. No idea after that.
    Ah sorry, I assumed you meant the "First 11" managers.
     
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  13. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Was he on the bench at Celtic?
     
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  14. wfcwarehouse

    wfcwarehouse First Team Captain

    Whilst I’m aware that this is all we have, some of the XI’s listed here are awful.

    I really think we’re going to struggle this season.
     
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  15. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Isn’t New St off to Birmingham?
     
  16. Teide1

    Teide1 Squad Player

    Vata Chak sound like a battery!
     
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  17. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Tbf not sure .

    Probably not which is why we have him .
     
  18. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    You've not seen our pre-season games then?

    He's been a real worry. Absolutely awful. Defending like a traffic cone.
     
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  19. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    He wasn't, but they most likely left him out because he was refusing to sign a new contract, not because he wasn't good enough.

    But your little dark age of posts must continue it seems.
     
  20. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Agreed but for a game against Millwall, the #1 priority is usually a couple of huge immobile traffic cones who can head a football.
     
  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Didn’t say he wasn’t good enough?
     
  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    I took your inference to be that because he wasn't worthy of being on the bench at Celtic that's why we were able to sign him. Apologies if that wasn't what you had intended to mean.
     
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  23. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    The "can head a football" is the key part of that - you're not going to be winning many key headers if like yesterday you're constantly stood still watching the ball while the opponents are actually running to head it before you.
     
  24. WFC123

    WFC123 Academy Graduate

    TIs gonna be a long season given those potential line ups.

    Where are the goals going to come from?
     
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  25. Carpster

    Carpster Squad Player

    I'm buzzing
     
  26. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Our opponents.
     
  27. 3000

    3000 Reservist

    We are not going to win many games with Bachmann & Porteous in the side. It's mad how long we've had to endure calamitous defending. A small handful of mistakes over the course of the season is expected, but it was near enough happening every game last season and the season before and the season before.
     
  28. ProfessorAbdi

    ProfessorAbdi First Year Pro

    Starting lineup for Millwall will probably be:

    Bachmann

    Porteous
    Sierralta
    Pollock

    Andrews
    TDB
    Sissoko
    Morris

    Ince
    Bayo
    Chakvetadze

    Comfortable 3-0 defeat.
     
  29. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    These line ups are dreadful. Imagine what it will look like with 4 injuries. Amazing work by Pozzo!
     
  30. hartvix

    hartvix Reservist

    Langstaff, bought for less than 1 million, to score a hat-trick.

    Agree to that line-up, except I think Baah may start up front and an outside chance that Louza starts over TDB. Of course there’s a chance that Hoedt and/or Asprilla will be rushed back as well.

    As weak as that starting XI is, the most frightening thing is how weak the bench and rest of the squad is. This next month will be critical, because the current squad is definitely bottom 6 and if Hoedt, Asprilla and Louza leave we’re pretty much nailed on for relegation.

    The absolute minimum we need is a left wing back, a striker who can actually lead the line, and proper replacements for the trio above should they leave. I’m not sure we’ll get any of that, except perhaps some emergency loans like the left back from Sheff Utd and a youth striker from the Prem with no first team experience.

    We need the likes of Abbott, Clarridge, Ramirez-Espain, Nabizada and Tobi to develop at record speed the way things are going….
     
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  31. BeersThen

    BeersThen Reservist

    Good side that: loads of international experience, £5m striker, keeper that Man Utd wanted and ex Liverpool, Blackpool, Palace, Hull, Derby, Huddersfield, Stoke, Reading winger.
     
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  32. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Almunia

    Doyley - Cassetti - Ekstrand - Briggs
    Anya - Abdi - Battocchio - Chalobah
    Deeney - Vydra

    A team in their day capable of beating a team with Knockart the capital diver.
     
  33. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    I’d say “full strength” with everything we have looks like:

    Bachmann
    Ngakia, Porteous, Pollock, Hoedt, Larrouci.
    Sissoko, Louza.
    Asprilla, Chakvetadze.
    Bayo

    Bench: Bond, Andrews, Sema, Sierralta, TDB, Kayembe, Vata, Baah, Rajovic.

    The number 9 is super urgent as none of the three options are any good but Baah is just too raw for me.

    It’s not a terrible bench but I don’t think Asprilla will stay and this team is still badly short a goal scorer.
     
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  34. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    Interesting formation choice, 5-2-2-1. I get it though, need to be a lot more defensive minded. I would probably play Vata in an attacking role behind Bayo but then you have to sacrifice Asprilla or Chak, who are two of our best players so it's a tough call to make. Baah looks likely to step up this season, and I really hope Clevs can give him some game time.
     
  35. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    What has Bachmann done wrong now?
     

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