Do We Survive?

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You're right. I think this one is going to the wire.

 

I admire your optimism HB, I really do, but we lost to Norwich at home 0-3. For that alone we deserve to go down in last place.

 

Felt that I had to like the post from the one person left who feels we have a chance of getting out of this!

 

Some people have far too much time I their hands.

 

I'm a firm believer in the peculiarities of football. It throws up unbelievable things on a regular basis. Can we beat Burnley at home? Absolutely. Will that give the players a little bit of belief? Probably. We then go to Palace. They've got nothing to play for apart from pride and a little bit of spice between Watford a Zaha. Maybe he doesn't play and is out injured! Watford could go there and pinch an unlikely win, just as they did at Villa and Southampton. If those two things happen, then suddenly it all changes. People will suddenly sit up and think "hang on a minute, we could be on to something here". Players gain belief that the miracle is on.....then we go into the Everton game with all to play for.....etc.

You can see, a win changes everything and can become self-perpetuating in a positive way. Why not think this way? Doesn't do any harm.

 

On Betfair you can put £10 on us staying up and will win £500 if we do. Almost tempted.

 

I just went and threw £10 into the sea. There’s more chance of £500 washing up on the beach as a result.

 

I bet you £2 you didn't.

 

Like printing money.

 

Do you mean as a club or in the Premier league?
One is absolutely no way and the other questionable.

 

Even TVOR must have given up by now

 

He’s given up and resorted to blaming it on witchcraft.

 

I truly believed we could stay up, but having lost two of our very winnable games against Leeds and Brentford in the last few weeks my belief is hanging by a thread.

Having said that we could still do it if the stars align in our favour and someone shoots that bloody Witch Doctor.....

COME ON U 'ORNS​

 

Do you think shooting a Witch Doctor is conducive to good luck?

 

It's worth a try

 

Never change TVOR.

Overlooking years of systemic decline due to catastrophic decision making, to place blame on voodoo for our relegation.

Never. Change.

 

I also love the fact he didn’t believe Covid was real but happy to believe some third hand twitter comments about voodoo.

 

I have never said Covid was not real so please don't say that I did.

 

Have you seen Barcelona's home form recently? Seems they're turning into us.

 

Absolutely lovin the Sky Sports analysis of who will go down out of Leeds, Everton and Burnley. General consensus is that Leeds are in the biggest trouble as they have played Watford twice. On the other hand Everton and Burnley have got easier run-ins including Watford.

 

The problem is clearly @hornetboy1 . We need to coinvince him to go and support another team.

 

If our relegation is confirmed sooner rather than later, it will mean possibly two ‘dead rubbers’ to go to at Vicarage Road and I was wondering how I would feel about that. Would they seem like pre-season friendlies with nothing to play for? (Obviously the schadenfreude aspect of the Everton game would be different.)
In fact, these sort of games have happened very rarely over the years. Watford were relegated on the last day in 1975, 1996 and 2020, so that just leaves one game in 1988 v Derby, two in 2000 v Man U and Coventry and one in 2007 v Newcastle with nothing on them. (I do also remember the disastrous 1972 relegation but I was only going to the odd game then.) Does anyone remember how they felt attending those games?

 

That's the spirit! We are staying up, we are staying up! We are staying up, we are staying up!

 

I remember the Coventry one primarily because ‘Shorty’ did some raffle thing at half time with a bunch of little kids. One of the prizes was a day out at a Division 1/Championship game the next season. He described the prize with such enthusiasm that the Coventry fans cheered and fell about laughing at someone being so happy about relegation.

As did I. Horrific.

 

I was thinking I was sure there were more games than that after our relegations were confirmed, but then realized you were referring to just home games. But although it doesn't directly answer your question, I went to one game after we were relegated in 2007, having not been since Everton at home (I did watch the FA Cup games vs Plymouth and Man Utd) - Reading away where we grabbed a surprise 2-0 win, which resulted in them missing out on European qualification by one point. I went there because it was a new ground and I'd recently passed my driving test so driving there was good practice. Quite an enjoyable game because of the absence of any pressure, a very rare win on the road and the fact it was Reading we beat, denting their qualification hopes in the process (didn't like them at the time as we hardly ever beat them and their fans seemed a bit up themselves and were pretty condescending about us after their 0-0 at our place, seeming to think they should have cruised to victory there).

 

I'm thinking of voting 'no'.

Too soon?

 

It's still not confirmed which means it's still possible we stay up.

One thing's for certain, the players haven't given up, so I'm not giving up!

COYH!!