Day 2

Discussion in 'Werewolf: The forum game' started by Harrow Orn, Jun 7, 2017.

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  1. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Yep I agree with this

    But there is nothing to say that this new role is a good role is there ? We are assuming that its good.

    I will still argue that PJ still hasn't been named as good, just a suggestion of a man walking his dogs, who could well be PJ

    The facts are, at the moment we have no idea who is good and who isn't at this stage. I agree with Norway, outing the seer isn't good. Outing a wolf though is magnificent !
     
  2. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I vote Phelps.
     
  3. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Because as Alpha wolf he wouldn't have attacked himself

    If he has found a pozzo style loop hole in the game, then he might just of pulled off the biggest scoop in WW history
     
  4. Harrow Orn

    Harrow Orn Squad Player

    Powerjugs: Everything that's wrong with modern werewolf.
     
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  5. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    If I had kind of loophole knowledge I'd be working for the Club's transfer board!
     
  6. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Based on this information, I'm voting for hollowhead
     
  7. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    However we don't know which wolf killed diamond ,and which s h a t on PJs bed , in fact all we know is if PJ isn't a wolf he was o e lucky boy with a potential new role that saved him , whether it was a good role or an evil role we still don't know .
     
  8. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    And on that basis I am voting for Rodgers
     
  9. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    If the majority of us agree Message 1 on the first day is the Seer's, then it's either me, HH24 or NorwayHornet as the poem refers to a dog walk, which I had mentioned before the message was posted. And spot on re: new role saving my ass.

    No clue who to vote for.
     
  10. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    If my dogs walking it's on a celestial plane (I hope so anyway)
     
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  11. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    If majority believe the poem to be the seer , I haven't yet discounted theft message 1 is a very clever and articulate wolf
     
  12. Meh!

    Meh! Pre-Dictator

    And if you look at the quality of the poem compared to my masterpieces in that game, I find it a little insulting you think this one was by me!
     
  13. Optimistichornet

    Optimistichornet Penguin Assassin

    Hi all soryy busy day at work. Just wanted to post to say I am definitely innocent. For me that means powerjugs is also innocent, but does make me question what his role is as I don't think he is a guardian.
     
  14. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    And everyone has posted at least once today now.

    I have honestly not the foggiest who to vote for tonight.
     
  15. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Inclined to vote PowerJugs purely because we have the most to gain from it.

    If I'm correct that clears up Day 1 at least.

    If PJ is good message 1 was seer, if PJ comes out evil then the poem was from a wolf and we know what level of wolf we're dealing with.

    I have to vote by 6 so unless I've missed something glaringly obvious can someone let me know why I could be wrong?
     
  16. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    Did you read the earlier posts? I can't be a wolf, and if you believe that the first message of Day 1 was the Seer's that means either me, HH24 or NorwayHornet are Good. As I'd mentioned walking the dog before the message it's most likely me he viewed.
     
  17. wfcSinatra

    wfcSinatra Predictor Choker 14/15

    Got a bit lost in it all.

    How comes you can't be a wolf?
     
  18. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I wouldn't vote for PJ. The only thing we know for definite is that he can't be a wolf, which is more positive than for anyone else.

    He has a new role but we don't know for certain whether it's good or evil, but on the basis that he's the only person who 100% can't be a wolf, I don't think we should lynch him.
     
  19. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    If a wolf chooses another wolf, they fight and the weaker wolf dies. So, if PJ was the alpha and was chosen by the beta, he would kill the beta. If he was the beta, he would be killed by the alpha. Either way, a wolf would've died last night.
     
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  20. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Again you are assuming that the new secret role is a good role

    What if his role was that he couldn't be killed by another wolf ?

    At the moment we know there were two wolves, one killed Diamond and one dropped a curl on PJs bed. Who's to say we don't have a 3rd wolf ?

    Don't rule anything out in this game
     
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  21. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I don't think such a role can exist. That would be beyond overpowered given the numbers we have? And surely a third wolf would have appeared in the first round of attacks, else there would have been mention of a third by @Harrow Orn ? I don't think there's such a thing as a reverse Traitor which can be viewed as good but be on Evil's team? Question for you there mate.

    I can confirm my role is not immune to wolf attacks just like everyone else. And we have established that if we believe the first message of the 1st day is correct then my role is good, no?
     
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  22. miked2006

    miked2006 Premiership Prediction League Proprietor

    Exactly - everyone needs to read this.

    Powerjugs can be evil, but unless this amulet thing was given to a player with a role - which is improbable - it is unlikely that he is the wolf.

    We don't know the exact number of evil roles, and what they are. We must however acknowledge that a vote for PJ isn't going to get us a wolf.
     
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  23. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    I don't think we have a third Wolf yet! However PJ new role could be with team evil ,what if the 1st message is from a lupine source ? Just coz the majority believe it to be the seer ,doesn't mean the majority is right !
    After googling werewolf extra roles , hunters ,witches,wizard etc PJ could be anything good or bad
     
  24. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    Neither of today's messages made references to viewing anyone but Cassetti's Beard yesterday.
     
  25. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    The main thing that indicates it isn't me is that I was attacked on Night 1 and not CB. The Alpha wolf read I was good in the Seer's verdict after delivering his message and targeted someone who was a guaranteed Good kill rather than chance attacking CB who is unknown. Otherwise you'd be right in saying we don't have a clear indication as to who posted what.
     
  26. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    No idea who to vote for at the moment. Agree that there is no confirmation that Powerjugs' role is a good one but, assuming we have all interpreted the rules correctly, he cannot be a Wolf. So I am inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt and leave him be. I think (will check) that Harrow said there was a traitor in this game. So, with little to go on, I shall be voting either for
    (a) someone who hasn't contributed much (not only because this has been used as a tactic by evil previously but also because the game's more interesting with active players) or
    (b) someone who seems to be trying to sway people's voting
    I don't know if PO is good or not but I wouldn't use his early voting against him. He has always had to vote early because of the time difference
     
  27. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    My point. The two messages that were consistent I believe are the wolf's. We've established the Alpha wolf attacked me last night as the Seer with his confusing poem viewed me as good. Then the seer chose Opti as a random view today as he has nothing to go on yet. The wolf has continued his message from yesterday which didn't confirm CB as CB wasn't attacked when he was 'Confirmed' good last night when it would make sense to go with the guaranteed kill and threw in Hornetgags today to confuse others creating a false narrative re: viewings, though that sure as hell doesn't say either is Evil; just that they're yet to be genuinely Seer'd.
     
  28. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    Reckon Harrow has got PJ as the wolf whisperer !
     
  29. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    I'm not assuming anything, just pointing out that he can't be a wolf by virtue of the rules as posted in the admin thread. I've made no judgment on whether his role is Team Good or Team Evil.
     
  30. HappyHornet24

    HappyHornet24 Crapster Staff Member

    To be honest, I remembered straight away who it was who wrote poems before. But i didn't say anything because I thought that if that was proven to be the Seer's message, it was better to keep quiet so the Seer wasn't outed. Only if that message was proven to be the Wolf's was I going to remind people who it was. Why would you "out" the potential Seer?!
     
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  31. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    So your saying the Beta killed diamond while the alpha visited you ! And not the other way round , if 1st message was lupine ,then beta could have visited your house whilst you were in a different part of town eating diamond and smoking his weed .

    I don't think your a wolf ,however there is still an element of doubt for a wolf to eat a wolf they have to be in same place , and the write up clearly had them in different places , you could still be a high posting wolf ,doubtful very high risk strategy ,but possible.
     
  32. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I fully accept there's going to be doubt surrounding me due to the nature of my role. And you're absolutely correct that they were in different places to me. One killed Diamond, the other to my house and shat on my bed while I was out of my house. Do you mean doubt as in playing for Evil or as a wolf?
     
  33. hornetgags

    hornetgags McMuff's lovechild

    Ok I've had a moment of lucidity and clarity, I recant/withdraw my previous comments. However, have re-read today, my gut tells me it's time for tea and biscuits.

    I've got a theory cooking, however it depends on whether a wolf can kill a guardian meaning a guardian can only protect other people?
     
  34. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I think a Guardian can protect themselves once if they choose themselves.
     
  35. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Squad Player

    To be honest PJ I haven't the foggiest just when I think I am getting somewhere ,I get confuddled again
     
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