(26) Daniel Bachmann

Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by hornmeister, Aug 13, 2017.

  1. Guy

    Guy Squad Player

    What a **** up
     
  2. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Surely that was a foul? Bachmann seemed to have both hands on the ball then got clattered.
     
  3. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    That wasn't all on Bachmann, but ultimately he got there first and had to hold it.
     
  4. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Not sure you can blame Bachmann for that. Had the ball in his hands when the striker slid in to him
     
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  5. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I think he lost control of it before he collided with the Macedonian player there
     
  6. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Having just seen the replay now he definitely has the ball held in to his chest when the Macedonian player hits him.
     
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  7. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    In the PL probably would have been disallowed..

    Shame for him.
     
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  8. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    That angle shows it popped out because the of the contact from the striker but if he was in full control of the ball it wouldn't have been able to get away from him regardless.
     
  9. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Tell you what, Austria started well, but have been utterly **** since conceding
     
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  10. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Yes, a mistake, but the officials could easily have spared his blushes. Obviously wasn't all on him as it was shambolic all round from Austria
     
  11. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    I'm having to do this off a river so can't get any more clips, but it seemed pretty clear to me he got both hands on the ball before being hit.

    The forward goes right through the back of Alaba as well.

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  12. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Should have gone to ground and started rolling around !
     
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  13. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Maybe unsurprisingly, but the referee pundit assistant on Austrian TV also supposedly said it should have been a foul.
     
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  14. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I clipped the slow mo. Gutted for Bachmann with that goal. The initial borked clearance started it but when he gets there first there's not much reason for it to pop away from him after.

    Shows it popped out from Bachmann from his chest because the of the contact from the striker but if he was in full control of the ball it wouldn't have been able to get away from him regardless the way it did. 60/40 his fault I'd say as there was plenty others could do before that point.

    https://streamable.com/q2zcrc
     
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  15. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    That save will do Bachmann a world of good. Similar scenario to first goal in having to get there first and this time getting it right.
     
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  16. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Life of a keeper eh ?
     
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  17. PowerJugs

    PowerJugs Doyley Fanatic

    I should have my own game in an hour or so for some 6-a-side. My defence is about as good as Austria's so I'm going to be busy.
     
  18. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Yes - they look pretty ropey .

    Probably in the weakest group .
     
  19. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Where's Prodl when you need him!
     
  20. StuBoy

    StuBoy Forum Cad and Bounder

    Austria score! Loving how crestfallen the ITV commentators sound at that.
     
  21. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Probably injured!

    Austria 3-1 up.

    Some nice goals .
     
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  22. lowerrous

    lowerrous Squad Player

    Pleased that one way or another that goal ultimately didn't cost Austria.
     
  23. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    And had a good solid game afterwards.

    Sometimes that sort of incident can really affect a keeper .
     
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  24. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Yes, they get the win, and even if they lose their next two games they might scrape through. One more point and they're 99% there, hope Foda sticks with Bachmann, a bad moment for him, but I've seen worse goalkeeping howlers
     
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  25. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Had his best match for us against Oxford in only his second game after the Tranmere mistake, and letting one in at his near post against Muff didn't seem to affect him neither, seems a strong character
     
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  26. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    He got in after the manager didn't trust the first choice (not sure who they are tbh) so does he stick with Dan or bring back the goalie who was dropped so might be be full of confidence?

    Or rely on another keeper!

    Wouldn't really be ideal for their defence - this goal happened due to a lack of communication and good play by Padev showing his experience in a way.

    Most would have just stood there letting Bachmann gather the ball.

    I don't think we'd expect to see Pickford dumped for example if he did that.
     
  27. pleaseenterthenamebywh

    pleaseenterthenamebywh Academy Graduate

    This error proves that he is a million miles away from being good enough. Would be a huge concern if he starts for us in August.
     
  28. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Everyone makes mistakes tbf, what would prove to me that he's not good enough is if he continually makes mistakes, or continually doesn't quite do what other keepers can. Jury is still out, but there are other areas we need improving more
     
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  29. Malteser2

    Malteser2 Reservist

    He didn’t let a shot through his legs or drop a cross etc..he made an error that was as much attributable to his defenders as to him..he recovered well thereafter and showed good mental strength..rather he hasn’t made that error obviously but I can’t see anything in his performance today that should worry people too much about him starting next season with Sierralta and TE in front of him.
     
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  30. AndrewH63

    AndrewH63 Reservist

    Yep, goal keepers mistakes tend to be more costly, the Ukrainian keeper just made a bigger mistake not booting the ball out for a throw in. As a result the ball regained by the Dutch who go and score the winner.
     
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  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Tbf in international football, you're unlikely to have the same kind of understanding you'd have with your club teammates, so replacing him with their #2 wouldn't necessarily cut out those kinds of goals
     
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  32. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    A funny old game isn't it? Had a great first half, but a decidedly dodgy second half, was probably at fault for 2 of the 3 goals, not much he could have done about the second with Wijnaldum (I think?) just in front of him
     
  33. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever First Team Captain

    Yes - he was a bit unlucky with the first that it went straight to the attacker and he seemed to try and do an awkward save for the winner.

    The 2nd goal looked offside at first but there was a defender playing the Dutch guy on I think.

    (Some would say VAR did it's job there!)
     
  34. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I'm not sure if he could palm it away from danger for the first goal, it was a great cross and his defence did him no favours. For the third goal, probably should have saved it, but in any case, get the ball out, don't just pass it casually to the Dutch!
     
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  35. cyaninternetdog

    cyaninternetdog Forum Hippie

    Hard to keep hold of a ball with your hands when someone is flying in with their feet. Unlucky Dan, looked pretty solid otherwise I thought.
     

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