Core For Next Season

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by wfcSinatra, Mar 4, 2023.

  1. R4E

    R4E Reservist

    To be fair to Bachmann, Choudhury called for and wanted the ball quickly then mis-controlled it under pressure when he got it. Whether Bachmann should have ignored him is still a valid question.
     
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  2. Didn't see that. But TBF, Choudhury is also a ******* idiot as demonstrated many times this season. And therefore should not be passed to in a holding MF position under any circumstance.
     
  3. wfcmoog

    wfcmoog Tinpot

  4. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    He also concentrated very hard on definitely under no circumstances leaving his line when their player did a high, hanging header for the second goal ending up with it being knocked on within the six yard box. That was great.
     
  5. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    Yep, Ngakia is very poor. League 1/2 player
     
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  6. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Is League 0.5 between the Championship and League 1?

    Some kind of purgatory version of platform 9 and 3/4 perhaps. I can see us ending up there if Gino keeps pushing us towards a brick wall.
     
  7. RMT79

    RMT79 First Year Pro

    I agree he isn’t great but felt he was worth keeping as a squad player - seems to at least have a decent attitude
     
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  8. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Porteous as club captain would be ideal. I think he can give a few verbal tongue lashings. Problem is I don't think he'll be here for long given his potential. Also need a sports psychologist and set piece expert analyst. If Gino is staying on unfortunate as that is then he needs to be told in no uncertain terms he is not to interfere. All his meddling with managerial changes, player recruitment have failed miserably.
     
  9. Smudger

    Smudger Messi's Mad Coach Staff Member

    Sell them both and find a young keeper with potential. And get our two young keepers up one rung.
     
  10. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    We destroy promising young keepers. Get an old knackered one.
     
  11. Supertommymooney

    Supertommymooney Squad Player

    Is that Foster guy still playing?
     
  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Worth a cheeky £5m offer to Wrexham ?
     
  13. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    I feel like there's taking 'risks' as part of a drastic cultural reset (as clearly required) and then there's rank moonman stupidity, which would be appointing someone who is literally not a manager/coach to be our manager/coach and charge them with entirely reshaping the club from the nadir of a decade. We have absolutely no evidence or reason to believe at this point that he would be an appropriate or even capable choice, whatsoever.
     
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  14. Keighley

    Keighley First Team

    Could hardly do worse than the last few, frankly.
     
  15. Lloyd

    Lloyd Squad Player

    Don't forget he'll have Martin O'Neil for guidance
     
  16. Chumlax

    Chumlax Squad Player

    You and I both know that's utter nonsense - it has to be good old 'Arry Redders.
     
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  17. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    As you go through the trapdoor out of League 1 you end up in a different realm
     
  18. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Well Rotherham have been in a permanent state of flux between the two divisions, and we drew to them twice...
     
  19. a19tgg

    a19tgg First Team

    Watford FC: Hold my beer, challenge accepted.
     
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  20. leighton buzzard horn

    leighton buzzard horn Squad Player

    This is one of those lines that gets peddled about but without much truth - similar to Kienan Davis "he doesn't score goals but his hold up play is great". Davis' hold up play is crap and Bachmann is a bang average shot stopper and crap at everything else.
     
  21. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Updated (assuming JP and Sarr follow the loanees straight out the door):

    GK
    Bachmann: sell, a decent enough shot-stopper, but you need more than that

    Okoye: jury's out, let's see how he does at Coventry and possibly beyond (we might as well give him the rest of the season

    Buy at least one GK and have Hamer in reserve

    Cathcart: send to the glue factory

    Porteous: keep, he's rather rash but at least seems to care and is young enough to develop

    Hoedt: I'd get rid, but I don't think we will as we just got him

    Sierralta: ideally would have liked to have kept him, but probably goes as he's not had much gametime over the last two years

    Kabasele: like Hoedt, I'd get rid, but there'll be no takers sadly

    Pollock: ideally loan out again, but I fear he'll play a role next season

    Sign 1-2 CBs

    Full-backs/wing-backs

    Morris: (formation dependent) keep

    Sema: absolutely keep

    Ferreira: I'd keep him, he's better than Ngakia and still young

    Ngakia: sell, just hasn't kicked on

    Gaspar: we'll need some experience in the squad, and he can play in a few positions, I'd keep him even though his main position isn't a thing now and might not be next season

    Sign 1 RWB and one LWB if we are going to go for a back 3 system, or 1 RB and 1 LB if a back 4 system

    CM:

    Cleverley: see Cathcart

    Kone: keep, he's raw but he's shown some promise at least, though I fear he'll be packed off to Udinese

    Louza: really wouldn't be that upset if he goes, probably to Udinese

    Bacuna: really should go, but I fear he stays

    TDB: keep, it's weird to say he's in a sort of last chance saloon at the age of 23, but he's had soooo many injury problems. Shown flashes, but really needs to get playing and make them more than just flashes

    Asprilla: keep and build the team around him (hopefully he'll have bulked up a bit by August too)

    Sign 1-2 CMs

    Strikers:

    Assombalonga: again, I'd get rid, but I think in these more austere times we'll be living in, he's probably played his way to a deal for next season

    Bayo: I'd keep, but there isn't usually a way back for players who get loaned out

    Adeyemo: probably gets loaned out

    Sign 1-2 strikers

    Wingers:

    Martins: Surely won't want to come back here

    Kalu: we'll pay up his contract won't we?

    Anyone else there? Formation dependent, this is the area that will need the most work, as literally only Sema looks like he might stay and play a role next season

    Formation dependent: Buy 1 LW, 2 RWs
     
  22. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    15 players out the door - release, sent back, sold.

    sign 10-12 players, and throw in the best players in our u21 team.

    keep 9

    Hamer
    Porteous
    Sierralta
    Ferreira
    Morris
    Kone
    Louza
    Asprilla
    Sema
     
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  23. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    I'd take any offer for Louza. He just isn't up to the fight.
     
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  24. tonycotonstache

    tonycotonstache Squad Player

    Sell Sarr, Pedro, Bayo, Louza, Bachmann

    Release Cathcart, Cleverley

    Bacuna and Assombolonga do not resign.

    Grieves, Adeyamo, Blake in the squad.

    Bring in Willock or Dack on a free.

    Give Asprilla the Pedro role.
     
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  25. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Grim stuff. Good luck, Ben Manga
     
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  26. I Blame Pozzo

    I Blame Pozzo First Team

    What's Luther doing these days?
     
  27. GoingDown

    GoingDown "The Stability"

    Like many before us, went all out for promotion with no plan or method and failed dismally. The only way is down.
     
  28. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    He'll surely be gone by the end of the summer? I honestly wouldn't be shocked.
     
  29. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    My big fear is that they will still harbour hopes of promotion next season and will splash out a bit on more unsuitable players
     
  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    And there will be pressure to spend any money we get for Pedro despite the fact we probably need that to help pay off the debts.
     
  31. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Just realised I forgot Kayembe, I highly doubt there'll be any takers for him anyway, but regardless, if we accept that we'll be a mid to lower table Championship team next season, he might be useful. He usually puts in 6 out of 10 performances when he plays as a sort of pure ball-winning midfielder, but he's put in the odd stormer where he's absolutely marauded his way through the field as a sort of poor man's Abdoulaye Doucoure, I'm not sure whether it's tactical instructions, a lack of confidence or something else which holds him back those other times
     
  32. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    There is a concern that the owners may name him in the starting 11 without first asking whether he’s prepared to play.
     
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  33. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    Hamer
    Ferreira
    Porteous
    Hoedt
    Morris
    Kone
    Dele-Bashiru
    Kayembe
    Hungbo
    Adeyemo
    Kalu

    League 1 here we come!
     
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  34. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Where is Kayembe? Is he still at the club? Or is he injured? Genuinely no idea what happened to him.
     
  35. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    ... and watch us get relegated with a record low points total!
     

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