Core For Next Season

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by wfcSinatra, Mar 4, 2023.

  1. Dorset-Orn

    Dorset-Orn First Year Pro

    On paper 352 should work well but from what I've seen over the years there are very few players who can play WB effectively. (most teams just stick FBs there and rarely works as they end up playing 532.)
    Either that or they push on and rarely cover properly so if you don't have 3 super fit speedy CBs you're done...
     
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  2. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Apparently each club have to announce a retain and released list by next week .

    Guess we are going to do it at the last minute ..

    Or we aren’t releasing anyone/in contract talks with some .
     
  3. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I saw Uncle Ron on about this on Twitter. Youth players aside it's usually pretty meaningless though. A player can be shown as 'released' but then sign a new contract a day later.
     
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  4. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes that is where I saw it too.

    Club will probably do whatever they want to bend the rules !

    Thought that too - you can just say you are in talks as well presumably
     
  5. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    On the condition we keep Louza, this is how we line up vs <insert team> in August. This is Worst Case Side.

    --------------------------------------Flapmann------------------------------------

    ---------Porteous-----------------Kabasele----------------------Hoedt-----------

    ----------Gaspar---------Louza-----------Cleverley-------------Sema-----------

    ---------------------Fletcher---------------Bayo---------Manaj----------------------
     
  6. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I've read on social media that Louza is going to Udinese on a Free transfer. Reliable poster.
     
  7. SkylaRose

    SkylaRose Administrator Staff Member

    That wouldn't at all surprise me if it turned out to be true. Which is becoming very common being a Watford fan right now.
     
  8. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

  9. Since63

    Since63 Squad Player

    Udinese exercising the ‘BOGOF’ clause inserted in the insane £16mill deal for Kamara?
     
  10. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

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  11. luke_golden

    luke_golden Space Cadet

    Hope you’re wrong.
     
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  12. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Worrying if true.
     
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  13. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  14. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Baffling update, 3 might stay and 2 will definitely leave but 4 of the 5 will be on the retained list???

    Off to a good start this summer, everything under control and a clear plan of action
     
  15. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    Not sure whether featuring on the retained list is the same thing as being retained. Released players might also be named on the list.
     
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  16. WatfordTalk

    WatfordTalk First Team

    Bizarre. So they want VI to have a look at them and confirm that they're finished? Can't we just start the process of replacing now?

    Cathcart can probably still do a job, but realistically TC is finished as a player, as his body continues to break down. Gosling is an ok option, but I can foresee similar recurring injuries if he sticks around.
     
  17. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Ahh right, so 4 will be on the ‘retained list’ 3 under the ‘ongoing discussions’, 1 under release (Britt) and 1 not featured (Gos) ?
     
  18. TomWatfordFC

    TomWatfordFC Reservist

    I believe there are only 'released' and 'retained' sections. Clevs, Craig, Britt and Bacuna will be under 'released'. Dan won't be on there at all.
     
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  19. Knight GT

    Knight GT Predictor extraordinaire 2013/14

    I hope Uncle Ron is happy now!!
     
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  20. Irishorn

    Irishorn Gael Force

  21. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Can retained players be included on the released list too just to complete the confusion ?
     
  22. simpleMASH

    simpleMASH Reservist

    There is no reason to give Cleverley or Gosling new contracts. Cathcart might be worth a year if we’re too poor to sign new players.
     
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  23. Jumbolina

    Jumbolina First Team

    It will make my day if Cleverley, Cathcart and Gosling are all given new contracts.

    # alwayslearning
     
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  24. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Gosling wouldn’t even be a new contract, we’d be actively choosing to re-sign a previously released player

    Our finances must be in the mud
     
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  25. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    We can't start to move forward if we continually retain players that are going backwards.

    The vet would be putting them down.
     
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  26. With A Smile

    With A Smile First Team

    Makes sense - Goslin's contract has already been cancelled, so is a free agent. Therefore he doesn't have to be named.

    Think the club have got this right Mainwaring, Jones, Pike, Wilson and Frazer should make up a geriatric core of the squad.
     
  27. lowerrous

    lowerrous First Team

    It would have avoided all the confusion below your post if you'd have read the article properly initially, where it states that the list is actually called the ‘Retained & Released List’ - hence all retained and released players will be mentioned there under the separate categories (except for Gosling, because he left us prior to his contract expiring).
     
  28. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    All very predictable.

    Only surprise is they haven’t agreed a new contract - probably not saying much if we cannot afford what they want .

    No one in contract was going to leave (be released )
     
  29. VR94

    VR94 Academy Graduate

    Also typical of the cloak and dagger approach to make no mention of loanees returning to parent clubs. Choudhury had a permanent option we presumably aren't taking up and it would be standard/gracious to acknowledge the others.
     
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  30. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Tbh would the club gain anything from saying thanks to Davis for being rubbish!

    Choudhury was only going to sign if we went up I think?
     
  31. DrewH

    DrewH Administrator Staff Member

    Shambles.
     
  32. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Pretty sure they’ve updated it, originally said ‘retained list’ only
     
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  33. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    If Watford post anything on social media about Davis leaving, I think I might set up several accounts just to like it as many times as possible.
     
  34. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Exactly.

    I don’t think saying thanks for your services would go down well tbh !
     
  35. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Granted, I would prefer to replace him, but Gosling doesn't really have a reputation for being injury-prone, he just has the one serious injury which might take its toll at his age, but it's not as if he's Cleverley whose body has well and truly broken down. Cathcart seems as if his body is in one piece, but his form went downhill massively and doesn't seem as though he'd fit what Ismael wants us to do, a new 5 year deal please
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2023
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