Cleverley Sacked

Not disagreeing strongly with your overall point but you’re vastly overrating Pollock and Vata.

Vata done literally nothing of substance for the last three months, even if he will become good one day he’s not right now.

Coventry and Middlesbrough have vastly better squads and out of our good players you mentioned, we only had one since January in Selvik and Baah being fit is literally the difference between play-offs and 14th IMO.

 

That’s why I read the Daily Star for my news, their short snappy headlines always do a great job of distilling the actual story for me without reading the whole article.

 

Of course it is. That’s why it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference whether the manager is Cleverley, Pep or Jonny No-Mark from Ecuador.

 

That sounds really painful.

 

Sisyphus had his bolder.

Ixion his wheel.

Tantalus his fruits and clear spring water, unobtainable both.

Tityus his vultures.

Tom his corner flag!

 

People seem to be forgetting we were relegation favs, before the start of last season. We finished mid table, with one of the worst squads in the Championship. Clevs completed his objective, he kept us in the Championship.

 

Yet we readily describe Louza and Chak as two of the best players in the Champo. Statistically, since January, we’ve had one of the best keepers. I’d argue that every single team that finished below us, with maybe the exception of QPR had a worse squad on paper.

To describe our squad as ‘one of the worst’ is nonsense. We had a mid table squad. It was more the lack of faith in the owners and coach that led to a belief that relegation could happen.

 

I think the point most people seem to be missing is players like Giorgi, Louza, Pollock and Baah were not expected to be our best players this year. How many of us would have predicted that they'd be our 4 best players this season at the end of last season? I didn't even think Baah or Louza would be at the club by the end of the summer window.

We all thought our squad was devoid of any quality and it's to TC's credit that they've all hugely improved to become our best players this year. It's revisionism IMO to say otherwise. I also think people are missing the point that the culture within the squad was pretty rotten and I think without someone like TC we'd have spiraled into a horrible relegation battle, with players who weren't up for it.

 

We really weren't:



https://www.oddschecker.com/insight...ictions-the-final-table-according-to-the-odds

 

i am surprised to hear Watford fans were not banking on Chakvetadze being a key player for them after he had a standout Euros tournament in the summer?

 

He'd never really shown any consistency with us had he? I think we all knew he was a good player, but he'd hardly proved to be a game changer last season. I remember when Belkalem looked like Maldini in the World Cup and that didn't work out for us...

 

that is interesting. i have not seen much of Watford Fc in the EFL but i did see that tournament so i was just surprised to read that was the opinion of the majority of the fans as you did write. with the Watford Fc squad i would have seen as a key player for me

 

Yeah it's a fair point, I think it was clear he had a lot of promise but before Cleverley took over he was coming on as a sub mainly and I think quite a lot of people were a bit baffled when we made his signing permanent in January last year.

 

Clevs succeded then, we finished where we were supposed to finish

 

Selvik, Abankwah, Kebben, Louza, are quality, Vata and Chaks have got potential, they have very little end product, the rest would struggle to get into our Sunday League side, absolute garbage

 

The bookies don’t set his goals for the season, the employer does.

 

Well well, almost bang on for us. Luton... Less accurate hahahaha

 

So the Pozzos goals were set as what ?

 

Two white post-y things, either end of the pitch.

 

Pity they didnt tell Bayo that

 

Or, as is actually the case - without those players we would’ve (nearly did) spiral into a relegation battle?

 

Blah blah blah blah blah. In the age of social media and snappy comms, there's this bunch of old geezers writing like it's 1995.

But also, what a ridiculous list of things the new 'manager' is supposed to deliver:

• results in the Championship
• develop this young squad
• continue the academy’s recent progress
• connect with fans
• unite all within and around the club
• nuclear fusion
• world peace

Pozzo only appoints head coaches. The job role is to train the team, pick (most of) the players for a match and take what they're given when it comes to transfers in/out.

 

The most ridiculous thing the new head coach is supposed to deliver is what Gino Pozzo demands:

• "...to challenge for the play-off places next season and, hopefully, promotion"

 

PARLACCCCCCCCIIIIIIIII 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

Do me a favour, the same old bullshine, words words n more words. No action. Its no wonder the clubs such a mess. Pozzos pi**ing himself at this, hes got it made.

 

Give Gino a break !

 

A few people on Twitter saying appointment could be today or tomorrow. Not exactly surprising but I'm prepared to be whelmed.

 

This sounds like a job for steely eyed Diego Alonso!

 

Haven't heard of this 'today or tomorrow', is he any good? Sounds Bulgarian.

 

The messages going around is it’s a coach from abroad, work permit secured easily and it got done today. Name wise no clue. We’ll see if anything breaks later on I guess