Discussion in 'The Team Bus' started by GoingDown, Oct 3, 2021.
Mmm.... Jenny Agutter...
Yeah, I deleted my message in the end (and went for something a bit more frivolous) because I thought I had misunderstood you.
One of the reasons health care costs are increasing is precisely because we have seen a shift from communicable to non-communicable diseases as a cause of death. Cholera kills you off much more quickly - and cheaply - than cancer. If you throw overweight/obesity into the mix then, as you say, the number of multimorbidities increases and the cost is likely to spiral. It's not age in itself that causes rising health care costs.
Nurse’s uniform - American Werewolf in London?
Very affectionate and jolly.
Let’s hope he has a lot to smile about in the coming weeks.
Impossible not to like the guy really.
Honestly seems like the perfect man for the job. Ticks every box for me.
Some of the teams this guy has created. Leicester will take the cake but my personal favourite is his Batistuta/Rui Costa Fiorentina side.
If we beat Liverpool, can we do something for his 70th? Like sign a big virtual card? Or is that just pushing it a bit too far as fans...
Just hope it's not a Fulham repeat but as you say he has mostly done well in jobs before and since.
They said maybe
Claudio would be sacked today
We still made him a song
I'm looking at his time at Fulham as others might look at GT with England or Clough with Leeds.
We're still in the top three favourites to go down no matter who is manager but I do think we've got a decent squad - just had the wrong guy managing it. Fingers crossed.
The shower scene
As lovely and as legendary a bloke as he is, I'm not sure Watford fans should be getting too attached to managers!
Having watched some of the interviews and club videos.... I love the guy already. If I was a player... I'd be well up for Saturday
Yes - if you cannot get on with Ranieri you probably won’t with many people .
It'll be interesting to see if Grandpa Claudio has managed to teach Troost Ekong to pass to one of his own team mates. I'll take my hat off to him he has
I don't think that is naive, I would say that this is the general consensus of the majority of watford supporters. To be honest this is exactly what I hoped we would do last season if we went up. We may even stay up as the competition aren't brilliant, if we do then that is a bonus and if we get relegated the plan is still on track and the club should be in a hethier position financially.
I said before the Pozzos and fans shouldn't expect too much from the next few games but never know with better organisation and performance we can surprise a few again.
No doubt the media will be saying "when will he be sacked" after each game if we lose.
I see Klopp has had his say...
Got an assist for Nigeria, so maybe he'll come back a new player!
Again, in what possible world is planning to get relegated and lose tens of millions in Premier League cash, alongside all our top players and most promising youngsters for well below their optimum value and have to redevelop a squad for the third time in three seasons, a better position financially - or, indeed, an intelligent business move?
Given T-E has been away on international duty for the majority of these two weeks then that would certainly be some doing already!
Because it is cheaper and more sensible than coming up and spending more money that we do not have. Of course in an ideal World we would like to stay in The Premier League and get the financial rewards. However, to have a good chance of staying up we need to spend a lot more, which in my opinion would be a massive gamble.
I don't think we are going to stay up either, but I would like us to give it a good go. If we do go down, then you would hope Gino would not have spent our remaining funds on panic buys to try and retain our Premiership status if, say by April it seems a lost cause. That small portion of money, including any sales from Sarr etc. would be a nice cushion to rebuild next season (along with any Parachute payments). If we don't go mad in January, spend what we can within our mean (get a bloody RB) and stay up - then we are even better positioned to not be in a relegation scrap next season, especially if we manage to retain Sarr, Dennis, King, Bachmann, Pedro, Etebo and Serrialtra. My assumption is, if we do survive this season, the pre-mentioned players' may consider staying with us.
Having a "decent squad" in the prem isn't usually enough to stay up.
So is she in nurse's uniform, OR in the shower ? Or both ?
Haven't seen what he's said but he usually manages to spin each game they play such that anything better than a 2 goals for defeat for his side would be a major achievement and wholly down to his superb management. Something along those lines ?
Just thought it was too early for us to make a change etc .
And got in an excuse about missing players.
You mean you haven't seen it?
No, but it's better than some of our squads that survived.
And in my opinion we now have the best manager of the lot. No player is going to think they know better than Claudio Ranieri. They should feel honoured to work with him.
To have a decent enough chance of staying up, we would have had to spend relatively very little more than we did - we could even theoretically have recruited further on frees - just bringing Nkoulou in in the summer, when he would have cost us exactly the same amount of money, would have improved our chances of staying up, considering the situation we now find ourselves in.
It's a fallacy that we either had to throw the kitchen sink at transfers and bankrupt ourselves, or immediately accept relegation - we just had to be a little smarter and a little more active in a few key areas (to be said to have a 'decent' chance).
Also not to have allowed the ultimate competition winner's dream to turn into all of our nightmares - that would have helped, too.
Every time I come round a bit to wanting to like him, he goes and bes a total ballbag again. What a ballbag.
Hope you are right but not expecting much in the next few weeks with the injuries around and our squad not being as good as some think going by recent performances unless we are just basically saying it was all down to Munoz.
I think over time Ranieri can get us more organised and tactically aware but he needs the players to be on the ball - as you say they ought to have respect for him.
I fully agree, but I still think the club did the right thing in giving Xisco a chance. He more than earned his throw of the dice in the Premiership, even though it did turn out to be Snake Eyes. He failed, we all knew he was out of his depth (I think he did too), but he hasn't left us rock bottom. Claudio is working off 7pts from 7 games - as PPG stands, that's "just" on track for survival. However, I am under no illusions due to our next awful run of fixtures, we will be playing catch up at least till after Xmas - unless we get some very good results.
It probably is, but the standard is improving every season and will continue to improve. I'm not sure this squad should be expected to finish above 3 other teams in this league.
I get what you're saying but for me, it was never about 'earning' it - it was always clear that what has subsequently happened was going to happen under him, and so earning it would have to mean he'd earned the right to have a play about at the top level regardless of being literally unqualified at the expense of the club, and to me no one is in a position to earn that. That's not how you run a successful club, in reality.
As many have said by this point, including myself, the problem this time was purely one of being too sentimental, at the worst time for sentiment.
You're right in that we're lucky the disastrous experiment didn't leave us with 1 for 2 points instead of 7; I said that exact thing myself in a post earlier in (presumably) this very thread. But also, as you say, that is really just a measure of how bad it was/got, and we really needed several more points than that to weather the storm that is coming in this next set of fixtures.
To be fair, I didn't necessarily mean that we needed to just accept relegation. Its just my opinion that the right approach is to try and stay up by spending as little as possible, so if we do end up gettimg relegated the club are still in a healthy and stable position. This has evidently been what Gino is trying to do. I think the board know that there is a strong possibility of relegation. Although I don't think we have accepted relegation, I actually think some of our buisnees has been quite good considering our budget. Are there free transfers out there that significantly improve our side? who would accept a reasonable wage? Genuine question. Agreed we could have signed another centre back in the summer, the club obviously thought we had enough in that area, they were not to know that we would pick up injuries. I assume we only signed Nkolou becaue of injuries.
I kind of agree with you regarding Xisco but arguably the competition winner did get us promoted.