Chile Are On Our Case

Discussion in 'The Hornets' Nest - Watford Chat' started by sod chip save luther, Sep 1, 2021.

  1. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    I believe they won’t ban him …but the referee will be required to send him off immediately after kick off so we play with 10.
     
  2. Eric IS Bananman

    Eric IS Bananman Academy Graduate

    All English based players who didn't travel for international duty have been banned for this weekend's game.
     
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  3. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Sure Liverpool will have something to say about that!
     
  4. Markoa$

    Markoa$ Squad Player

    So Sierralta is out then. So is Jimenez.

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  5. BigRossLittleRoss

    BigRossLittleRoss First Team

    So somebody on Twitter says.
     
  6. RS2

    RS2 Squad Player

    Pozzo vs Fifa.
     
  7. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    With Nadhim Zahawi posing as linesman
     
  8. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    I suppose this might be less of a problem post-covid (whenever that may be), but could this develop into a power struggle between FIFA and the Premier League? FIFA, as they have done for many years, are obviously trying to protect the primacy of their competition and international football in general but the Premier League will also want to protect their ‘product’. If top players are prevented from playing domestic games it devalues that competition and the PL should support their member clubs against it.
     
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  9. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Presumably we just call up our as yet untried youngster Frank Orionalta ? Big Sth American youngster.
     
  10. BusheyOrn

    BusheyOrn Reservist

    If I have red each countries regs correctly, Sierralta would have had to isolate for 10 days when arriving in Chile as the UK is on Chile'sored list. Then when he returned he would need to isolate for another 10 days as Chile is on the UK's red list, so then include the days for actually playing the internationals and he would have been out for a month!
     
  11. The undeniable truth

    The undeniable truth First Team Captain

    Absolutely ridiculous that players are being called up under these circumstances. They might not even get to play in the international concerned.
     
  12. Otter

    Otter Gambling industry insider

    This might be a controversial suggestion as it would not benefit some countries like Venezuela, Peru or Bolivia, but a lot of South American countries' players play in European leagues, would it not have been possible to play some of these qualifiers in Europe somewhere to help avoid this shambles?
     
  13. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

  14. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

  15. Heidar

    Heidar Squad Player

    The only plus point is that Jimenez is also suspended.

    An absolute farce and concrete Covid rules need to be made ahead of the next international period.

    How about simply no movement to or from Red lists - or is common sense not a thing these days?
     
  16. Aberystwyth_Hornet

    Aberystwyth_Hornet Squad Player

    I guess each country has a different interpretation of a red list.

    What is happening to new zealand and aussie players? New Zealand in particular has very draconian quarantine rules in place...
     
  17. andy wfc

    andy wfc Academy Graduate

    I think Australia played in Vietnam yesterday.
     
  18. hornetboy1

    hornetboy1 First Team Captain

    I think common-sense has to prevail here. Covid-19 has not just disappeared. It's still as deadly as it ever was. If countries like Chile, Brazil, Mexico are on the red list, it's because they've not got on top of the problem.

    Why should we send our healthy players to an unsafe location? What if a player goes to one of these countries, gets the virus and dies. What's the excuse then?

    It's a serious risk, and people should stop pretending the virus is not a problem anymore.

    It's just pettiness that these countries want these players to have a ban. What purpose is that going to serve? The only reason they are not going is because of health reasons. If FIFA side with the complaint of the nations, then Infantino should lose his job instantly. Just as bad a Blatter.
     
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  19. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    We moan footballers aren’t in the real world then when they try to be by looking out for themselves and others get punished for it!

    So basically all the players will now go to the next set of Internationals for fear of being banned if they don’t.
     
  20. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    I don't think most people are in the position where two elite (yeah yeah, I know) outfits are fighting over them lol
     
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  21. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    I reckon a 5 day ban isn't high on their list of priorities. Suspect they're more bothered about being accused of turning their backs on their nation and losing sponsorships etc.
     
  22. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    Yes and potentially their places in the team in some cases.
     
  23. BusheyOrn

    BusheyOrn Reservist

    We are on Chile's and Brazil's red list also I believe so the problem is both ways.
     
  24. Hogg-DEENEY!!!

    Hogg-DEENEY!!! Squad Player

    Is Sierralta important enough to Chile to still get in the team after this? They seem a middling South American nation with or without him, a far cry from the team which won the Copa America twice in a row (in consecutive years of course, because CONMEBOL gonna CONMEBOL lol)
     
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  25. Johnny Todd Sings

    Johnny Todd Sings First Year Pro

    What is interesting about this is that the health authorities wouldn't have allowed the banned players to play anyway. It was them that stopped the Brazil Argentina game. Now FIFA are considering punishing both Brazil and Argentina because the game wasn't played.
     
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  26. Johnny Todd Sings

    Johnny Todd Sings First Year Pro

    Ii think that it is only New South Wales that is a problem in Australia. New Zealand are in the Oceania Federation and they play their qualifying games in a single tournament sometime later this year I think.
     
  27. Moosegasm

    Moosegasm Reservist

    It seems the ban is an attempt to encourage the UK Gov to back down on travel exemptions. Talks between the PL, Fifa and UK Gov are ongoing. The ban will be lifted if the players can travel for the next international breaks. I still think the PL should challenge FIFAs 'right' to act like d1ck$ during a pandemic in court.
     
  28. Steve Leo Beleck

    Steve Leo Beleck Squad Player

    Useful update on From the Rookery End:

    'as it stands, he is unavailable. Unless less something changes... and the situation is fluid'.
     
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  29. UEA_Hornet

    UEA_Hornet First Team Captain

    That's a bit of a cheap jibe at the podcast Steve. For once that probably perfectly reflects the club's understanding of the situation too. There are bigger boys playing in this particular playground and Watford just have to stand on the sidelines and see what happens before Saturday with FIFA, the PL, the govt, the European Club Association etc...
     
  30. LeedsOrn

    LeedsOrn Reservist

    From the club’s team news update this morning:

    “In light of the ongoing issues regarding players called up for international duty in purely red list countries, the Hornets remain (along with their fellow Premier League clubs) in discussion with relevant stakeholders regarding Francisco Sierralta’s availability for this weekend’s fixture.”
     
  31. WillisWasTheWorst

    WillisWasTheWorst Its making less grammar mistake's thats important

    The whole thing is a bit of a farce if Richarlison gets to play for Everton just because they have a good relationship with Brazil since he was allowed to play at the Olympics. It should be a blanket FIFA rule, albeit a daft one under current covid conditions, not something each individual country can enforce on a whim.
     
  32. IRB

    IRB THe artist formally know as ImRonBurgundy?

    Would be ironic if Richarlison turns out to have Covid and spreads it to other players at the weekend

    Not beyond the realms of possibility and would certainly add another layer of farce to the whole thing
     
  33. wfc4ever

    wfc4ever Administrator Staff Member

    I am sure Dyche will gave his sat if Richarlison scores the winner against Burnley !
     
  34. Eric IS Bananman

    Eric IS Bananman Academy Graduate

  35. sydney_horn

    sydney_horn Squad Player

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