Bolsonaro: Next Populist To Fall?

Discussion in 'Politics 2.0' started by Moose, Oct 2, 2022.

  1. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

  2. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    Going to a play off. The candidate of the left, former President Lula Da Silva, got 48.5%, but needs over 50%. Bolsonaro did better than expected with 43%.

    Under Lula’s last Presidency, social welfare increased and deforestation dropped by 65%. He was later jailed on corruption charges, which were then quashed. Quite a ride and lots at stake.
     
  3. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    Yep. False corruption charges they were. There was a little campaign going a while back to try to fit up anyone of a progressive nature on charges and have them jailed.

    It's a shame Lula didn't quite make it over the 50% on the first round. I wonder how much Bolsonaro was helped by that utter, utter kant Neymar coming out in his support just before the election.

    He appeared in a TikTok video singing Bolsonaro’s campaign jingle in which he lip synchs, “Vote, vote, and press ‘confirm’ for 22, that’s Bolsonaro,” in reference to the Brazil president’s official ballot number.

    It's been pointed out to Neymar that Bolsonaro has said things like these about indigenous Brazilians;

    "The indians are evolving, more and more they are human being like us”
    UOL Notícias, Janeiro 23, 2020;

    "The Indians do not speak our language, they do not have money, they do not have culture. They are native peoples. How did they manage to get 13% of the national territory?”
    Campo Grande News, April 22, 2015

    "It’s a shame that the Brazilian cavalry hasn’t been as efficient as the Americans, who exterminated the Indians.”
    Correio Braziliense newspaper, April 12, 1998

    "There is no indigenous territory where there aren’t minerals. Gold, tin and magnesium are in these lands, especially in the Amazon, the richest area in the world. I’m not getting into this nonsense of defending land for Indians”
    Campo Grande News, April 22, 2015

    "This unilateral policy of demarcating indigenous land by the Executive will cease to exist. Any reserve that I can reduce in size, I will do so. It will be a very big fight that we’re going to have with the UN”
    Video by Correio do Estado, June 10, 2016


    And Neymar's response?


    "They talk about democracy and a lot of things, but when someone has a different opinion they are attacked by the very people who talk about democracy. Go figure.”


    Like I say. Utter, utter kant.
     
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  4. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Not agreeing with the quotes you made, but you do have to say that there is a huge irony in that last paragraph and your response to it.

    After all, you appear to be recognising that democracy is about to remove a potential fascist dictator from leadership of a major country, because that is the will of the people of Brasil. When you are the staunchest defender of totalitarian dictatorship there is out there.

    So what bit, in your final quote, did Neymar get wrong? He seems, there at least, to have summed you up perfectly, and I don't think he has even read any of your posts on here.:)
     
  5. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

  6. Filbert

    Filbert Leicester supporting bloke

    What’s with the national football team shirts?
     
  7. Moose

    Moose First Team Captain

    The Nationalists have appropriated the Brazilian football team for many years. This article highlights recent feeling since 2014 but it goes back way longer than that.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62887765
     
  8. Moose

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  9. Arakel

    Arakel First Team

    Bolsonaro admitted to hospital in the US.
     
  10. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Good article, and well done for providing a little balance to your story. Given that it mentions he is currently in hospital suffereing complications from a stabbing he received from a, literal, lunatic left winger (member of the socialism and freedom party) back in 2018.
     
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  11. Clive_ofthe_Kremlin

    Clive_ofthe_Kremlin Squad Player

    In Florida! (Rolling eyes smiley, rolling eyes smiley).

    What a cesspit that place is. There's not one of those murderous South American and Caribbean tyrants and terrorists that doesn't flee back to base in Miami once the game's up. Baby Doc Duvalier, Posada Carilles, Dr Death Orlando Bosch, Fulgencio Batista (after a little sojourn in fascist Spain). The list is endless. Of course most of 'em are Fort Benning 'School of the Americas' trained anyway.

    https://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=81917&page=1
     
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  12. HenryHooter

    HenryHooter Reservist

    Yes. But he was stabbed:)
     
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